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u_8parktoollover
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by u_8parktoollover »

I was recently playing on a vintage mp labeled conn 3b. Something interesting I notices was that the walls of the shank were extremely thick so it didn't sit in the receiver quite right. Can someone tell me about this mp?
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

It's designed for the older Conn shanks with a different taper from normal mouthpieces (often referred to as "Remington" because of the mouthpiece supplied with the 88H). These shanks don't fit well in standard taper receivers.

The 3B seems to be a little larger than the Bach 1 1/2 G (a standard bass trombone mouthpiece) but slightly more conical inside.
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u_8parktoollover
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by u_8parktoollover »

Interesting. Thank you
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by Tbarh »

[quote="BGuttman"]It's designed for the older Conn shanks with a different taper from normal mouthpieces (often referred to as "Remington" because of the mouthpiece supplied with the 88H). These shanks don't fit well in standard taper receivers.

The 3B seems to be a little larger than the Bach 1 1/2 G (a standard bass trombone mouthpiece) but slightly more conical inside.[/quote]

Conn 3B larger than a 1 1/2G???
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u_8parktoollover
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by u_8parktoollover »

I actually played it on a tenor and it felt more like 4g to 3g
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TheSheriff
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by TheSheriff »

[quote="8parktoollover"]I was recently playing on a vintage mp labeled conn 3b. Something interesting I notices was that the walls of the shank were extremely thick so it didn't sit in the receiver quite right. Can someone tell me about this mp?[/quote]
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Is the piece labeled Connstellation? If it is then it is closer to a 1 1/2G and is intended for their bass trombones. It has a Brown & Sharpe taper to the shank. I use one in my 71H and it is an excellent piece.

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u_8parktoollover
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by u_8parktoollover »

No. Just said 3b I thing it's like 3g and my teacher said it's a tenor mp
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greenbean
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by greenbean »

I have had several 3B's. Some were fancier with Connstellation on them; others were plain and were just marked "Conn 3B." They were all quite similar. Close to a 1.5G. Narrower rim. I use one with a Conn 70H...
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Tbarh
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by Tbarh »

I would say closer to a 2G... Narrower rim and shallower Cup than a 1 1/2G...i have owned 2...
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TheSheriff
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by TheSheriff »

[quote="Tbarh"]I would say closer to a 2G... Narrower rim and shallower Cup than a 1 1/2G...i have owned 2...[/quote]
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I had Karl Hammond measure mine and he said it was actually a tad larger (overall volume) than a 1 1/2 G.

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Tbarh
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by Tbarh »

Wow.. Thats really surprising.. But Bach1 1/2G's vary wildly.. I have owned two 3B.. Bigger throat and backbore than my current generic 1 1/2G (Symington) which is a deeper variant of the 1 1/2G..

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u_8parktoollover
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by u_8parktoollover »

Well whatever tge size, I used it on tenor and that goes to shiw that that you are thr only one who can decide on the range. Not the mp or the horn, just the player.