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jacobgarchik
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by jacobgarchik »

Anybody recognize this person? Bought at a San Francisco flea market along with a bunch of other 8x10s of classical musicians. No date or information of any kind.

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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

Not very "vintage," given the equipment in the photo.

Looks like Joe Alessi with his Edwards trombone and Griego mouthpiece.
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harrisonreed
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by harrisonreed »

That isn't Joe, or an Edwards trombone, or any version of an Alessi mouthpiece ...
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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

[quote="harrisonreed"]That isn't Joe, or an Edwards trombone, or any version of an Alessi mouthpiece ...[/quote]

Oh. Sorry, Harrison. Who is it then? Still doesn't look very "vintage" (i.e., old) to me.

Too bad the photo wasn't autographed by the artist!
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harrisonreed
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by harrisonreed »

I agree, it sorta looks like a stock photo that was made to look vintage...

Then again...

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Time travelers abound! What is Coldplay's singer doing in this 1940s image?

As for the horn, it looks like a Bach 42B, and those have been around for a while! A long while. It could very well be a genuine photo from the mid 50s, and the guy is showing off his brand new 42B. The "No, see? I'm not bald!" haircut also screams 1950s.
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elmsandr
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by elmsandr »

Not a 42B. Maybe a Conn. notice the rounded trim on the brace sockets. Could even be an ancient Conn with a string pull F attachment, why else would you have your thumb there?

Cheers,

Andy
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harrisonreed
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by harrisonreed »

True. Looked too wide for a Conn, but I see it now
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Vegasbound
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by Vegasbound »

Could it be a bass bone? Certainly an old one as if you look closely no slide lock
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Pre59
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by Pre59 »

So, did Bruce Willis's dad play the trombone?
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FOSSIL
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by FOSSIL »

It's a Conn bass with optional wide slide, though I cannot see a TIS in place. What I can see of the wrap looks odd..... the pull slide section looks to be on the side nearest the player's head. Other left field idea.... a very early Williams... just might be a curved hand brace......Mouthpiece.... early Bach or Herrick ???

I see no reason for it to be a faked modern shot, especially as it came with other old pictures.

No idea who it is though.... anyone seen a pic of Spike Wallace ????
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JohnL
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by JohnL » (edited 2019-07-12 6:51 p.m.)

[quote="FOSSIL"]It's a Conn bass with optional wide slide, though I cannot see a TIS in place.

What I can see of the wrap looks odd..... the pull slide section looks to be on the side nearest the player's head. Other left field idea.... a very early Williams... just might be a curved hand brace......Mouthpiece.... early Bach or Herrick ???

I see no reason for it to be a faked modern shot, especially as it came with other old pictures.

No idea who it is though.... anyone seen a pic of Spike Wallace ????[/quote]
That does look like a Conn valve cap. It's possible the original TIS mechanism was removed to lighten the slide. I've seen some Wallace-Williams trombones with just a little squeeze clamp at the end of one outer sleeve - though I don't even see that here. Could be Williams cork barrels...

It's too bad the water key isn't in clearer focus; before he developed his trademark, patented water key, Earl used a conventional water key with the little ball on the end. It's just not clear enough for me to be sure whether or not this horn has one.

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Basbasun
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by Basbasun »

I vote for the horn being a Conn 70 with wide slide, I can se the tis but as John said the mechanism is removed, I did that to on my Kanstul, to lighten the slide. But who is the player?
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jacobgarchik
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by jacobgarchik »

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