Anyone know anything about this horn?

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Calibass
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by Calibass »

I have a Richard Gareis Bleistadt Boheman trombone. Iโ€™m trying to find out some info on it. Does anyone know anything about this?<ATTACHMENT filename="1A29BC15-A293-4ABB-A47A-A0F7B9F42B2A.jpeg" index="0">[attachment=0]1A29BC15-A293-4ABB-A47A-A0F7B9F42B2A.jpeg</ATTACHMENT><ATTACHMENT filename="E53650E5-A5D2-41AA-ADD3-B080E0DFE578.jpeg" index="1">[attachment=1]E53650E5-A5D2-41AA-ADD3-B080E0DFE578.jpeg</ATTACHMENT>
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JohnL
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by JohnL »

From what I can piece together, Richard Gareis was a violin maker in Olovi (German name Bleistadt) in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. That part of what is now the Czech Republic was a major center of instrument manufacture for centuries.

Given that Gareis was a luthier, it's likely that this trombone was a stencil - sold by Gareis (or his successors) under that name, but built by someone else. Looks like a typical Czech stencil to me, although it's interesting to see one stenciled for a Czech seller (most of the ones you find in the US are stenciled for an American seller).

I found this page:

http://bassic-sax.info/pix/index.php?/category/14210

showing a Gareis-marked saxophone that was apparently built by Keilwerth. You'll notice that it's also marked "Bleistadt", but in place of "Bohemia" it says "C. S. R" (Czecho-Slovak Republic?). That makes me think that an instrument marked "Bohemia" probably predates the formation of Czechoslovakia (1918).

Of course, you probably want to know what it's worth. Unfortunately, not a whole lot. Build quality on Czech stencils is usually pretty good, but they're generally smaller bore than is commonly used today.
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Calibass
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by Calibass »

Wow, thank you very much. Greatly appreciated
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LeTromboniste
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by LeTromboniste »

From the features, the water key in particular and the styles of ferrules, I would say it's likelier to be 20th century rather than 19th.
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

Now for the real question: how does it play?

And does the dog approve?
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Calibass
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by Calibass »

Sounds great but badly in need of slide work. The dog is very happy itโ€™s not a Marshall amp <EMOJI seq="1f602" tseq="1f602">๐Ÿ˜‚</EMOJI>
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Bloo
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by Bloo »

[quote="Calibass"]Sounds great but badly in need of slide work.[/quote]

bad slides are the trademark of old stencil horns on ebay
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Calibass
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by Calibass »

Thank you for the information. It sounds good but the slide is pretty rough. The dog is glad itโ€™s not my sons Marshall guitar amp <EMOJI seq="1f601" tseq="1f601">๐Ÿ˜</EMOJI>