FS: Kanstul 975 euphonium (SOLD)
- mrdeacon
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Any idea what the bell size is on your horn? And is yours a fixed bell? Looks like it is from the pictures...
Fun fact but I think your horn isn't a 975-2 but it's actually on of the 11 or so prototype Euphoniums! I think the original fixed horns were the model 976? I can't remember anymore haha.
A good give away if it was a prototype or not is the Custom Class engraving. NeoBri has my old Kanstul Prototype for sale here in the forums and it looks almost identical to your horn. Except I think yours might be all Yellow Brass...
Feel free to shoot me a PM if you want to talk abou the Kanstul Euphs! I know the guy who helped Zig design the Euphs and he liked to talk my ear off about them everytime I took my Kanstul out of the case.
Fun fact but I think your horn isn't a 975-2 but it's actually on of the 11 or so prototype Euphoniums! I think the original fixed horns were the model 976? I can't remember anymore haha.
A good give away if it was a prototype or not is the Custom Class engraving. NeoBri has my old Kanstul Prototype for sale here in the forums and it looks almost identical to your horn. Except I think yours might be all Yellow Brass...
Feel free to shoot me a PM if you want to talk abou the Kanstul Euphs! I know the guy who helped Zig design the Euphs and he liked to talk my ear off about them everytime I took my Kanstul out of the case.
- Finetales
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[quote="mrdeacon"]Any idea what the bell size is on your horn? And is yours a fixed bell? Looks like it is from the pictures...[/quote]
12" fixed bell. When I got the instrument I E-mailed Kanstul with the serial number and they told me it was made in April 2008, nothing about it being a prototype though. It has the Custom Class engraving on the bell, no model number in sight though. If it is a prototype I had no idea! Would love more information about the differences.
12" fixed bell. When I got the instrument I E-mailed Kanstul with the serial number and they told me it was made in April 2008, nothing about it being a prototype though. It has the Custom Class engraving on the bell, no model number in sight though. If it is a prototype I had no idea! Would love more information about the differences.
- mrdeacon
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Interesting! I know mine was November 2007 and mine was one of the first 7 prototypes... so yours was either one of the last prototypes or one of the first production models.
The biggest difference is the 975-2? or 976-2? is actually the version with the detachable bell. The -2 denoted the revision to the horn. That model usually came with a 12" bell in various metals. The early prototypes also had a different leadpipe from the later ones. The early ones had more of the sharper bend Z shape leadpipes while the later production ones had the smoother S shaped leadpipes. I think the fingure buttons are also different between the early prototypes and later horns... The ones on mine were big pancakes!
Zig totally borrowed a ton of parts between models. Some of the larger tubing like the hand brace is just a bent outer slide tube from a trombone haha. Or so the legend goes!
As far as I know, there weren't very many made in the fixed bell configuration. Mostly just the prototypes and maybe a handful of production models.
Mine was weird and had a hefty 11" GB bell! Super fun horn! I like my Besson more though :p
I'll make another post if I remember anything else tonight... or I can dig up any of the emails between my friend and I. It's been years since I thought about this stuff!
The biggest difference is the 975-2? or 976-2? is actually the version with the detachable bell. The -2 denoted the revision to the horn. That model usually came with a 12" bell in various metals. The early prototypes also had a different leadpipe from the later ones. The early ones had more of the sharper bend Z shape leadpipes while the later production ones had the smoother S shaped leadpipes. I think the fingure buttons are also different between the early prototypes and later horns... The ones on mine were big pancakes!
Zig totally borrowed a ton of parts between models. Some of the larger tubing like the hand brace is just a bent outer slide tube from a trombone haha. Or so the legend goes!
As far as I know, there weren't very many made in the fixed bell configuration. Mostly just the prototypes and maybe a handful of production models.
Mine was weird and had a hefty 11" GB bell! Super fun horn! I like my Besson more though :p
I'll make another post if I remember anything else tonight... or I can dig up any of the emails between my friend and I. It's been years since I thought about this stuff!
- Finetales
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[quote="mrdeacon"]The biggest difference is the 975-2? or 976-2? is actually the version with the detachable bell. The -2 denoted the revision to the horn.[/quote]
Ah, I assumed the -2 meant nickel plating. So would this be a 975 or 976? (no -2)
Big pancakes on mine as well.
I always assumed that the detachable ones were the anomalies and the fixed bell like mine was the norm. Wild!
Ah, I assumed the -2 meant nickel plating. So would this be a 975 or 976? (no -2)
I think the fingure buttons are also different between the early prototypes and later horns... The ones on mine were big pancakes!
Big pancakes on mine as well.
As far as I know, there weren't very many made in the fixed bell configuration. Mostly just the prototypes and maybe a handful of production models.
I always assumed that the detachable ones were the anomalies and the fixed bell like mine was the norm. Wild!
- Burgerbob
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[quote="Neo Bri"]These are very good. Very, very good.[/quote]
Yup! I just played the horn for sale, and it's a great instrument.
Yup! I just played the horn for sale, and it's a great instrument.
- Finetales
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If anybody decides what they really need to stay occupied during their quarantine is a nice euphonium from a recently defunct American manufaucturer, you've come to the right place!
What? Nobody? What are you people even DOING with your quarantines??? :biggrin:
What? Nobody? What are you people even DOING with your quarantines??? :biggrin: