[Schilke] 60-sized mpcs - alternatives?
- Bach5G
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Any suggestions for 60-sized mpcs? (Other than expensive boutique mpcs - Yeo replica as opposed to a Yeo signature, for example)
- Bach5G
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Bought a Yeo Replica. $55, free shipping. Cheap like borscht.
- JohnL
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Never tried one, but I've heard a lot of good things about the Laskey 93D. Not sure about availability new, what with Scott Laskey's passing, but gently used ones pop up once in a while.
The Hammond 21BL/BXL would be another option.
The Hammond 21BL/BXL would be another option.
- Bassbonechandler
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[quote="JohnL"]Never tried one, but I've heard a lot of good things about the Laskey 93D. Not sure about availability new, what with Scott Laskey's passing, but gently used ones pop up once in a while.
The Hammond 21BL/BXL would be another option.[/quote]
I agree about laskey, although I don't play one anymore but I did for about a year. Good piece if you have good chops.
The Hammond 21BL/BXL would be another option.[/quote]
I agree about laskey, although I don't play one anymore but I did for about a year. Good piece if you have good chops.
- fwbassbone
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The Yeo is a very good piece.
- Matt_K
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Doug Elliott all the way. LB114/L/L8 has been my go-to bass piece for a little over a year now.
- GabrielRice
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[quote="Matt K"]Doug Elliott all the way. LB114/L/L8 has been my go-to bass piece for a little over a year now.[/quote]
I've been playing XB114/M/M8 and sometimes L/L8.
For relatively inexpensive mouthpieces though, the Yeo replica is probably my first recommendation.
I've been playing XB114/M/M8 and sometimes L/L8.
For relatively inexpensive mouthpieces though, the Yeo replica is probably my first recommendation.
- Matt_K
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[quote="GabeLangfur"]<QUOTE author="Matt K" post_id="96673" time="1572087952" user_id="48">
Doug Elliott all the way. LB114/L/L8 has been my go-to bass piece for a little over a year now.[/quote]
I've been playing XB114/M/M8 and sometimes L/L8.
For relatively inexpensive mouthpieces though, the Yeo replica is probably my first recommendation.
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Ah yeah missed the inexpensive part. Although I got mine for a good price used fwiw
Doug Elliott all the way. LB114/L/L8 has been my go-to bass piece for a little over a year now.[/quote]
I've been playing XB114/M/M8 and sometimes L/L8.
For relatively inexpensive mouthpieces though, the Yeo replica is probably my first recommendation.
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Ah yeah missed the inexpensive part. Although I got mine for a good price used fwiw
- Burgerbob
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[quote="GabeLangfur"]<QUOTE author="Matt K" post_id="96673" time="1572087952" user_id="48">
Doug Elliott all the way. LB114/L/L8 has been my go-to bass piece for a little over a year now.[/quote]
I've been playing XB114/M/M8 and sometimes L/L8.
For relatively inexpensive mouthpieces though, the Yeo replica is probably my first recommendation.
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What do you think of the L?
I had an identical mouthpiece with L/L8 for a while, it just seemed not great.
Doug Elliott all the way. LB114/L/L8 has been my go-to bass piece for a little over a year now.[/quote]
I've been playing XB114/M/M8 and sometimes L/L8.
For relatively inexpensive mouthpieces though, the Yeo replica is probably my first recommendation.
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What do you think of the L?
I had an identical mouthpiece with L/L8 for a while, it just seemed not great.
- GabrielRice
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I like the L when I need to be especially light and articulate. It also requires just a bit less effort up in the high register.
- BGuttman
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I played a LB114/L/L8 for years (since I bought it from Doug in the early 1990s). Now that I'm a little older I've changed to a 112 rim and an L7 shank. Helps me keep up better.
I found the Schilke 60 and the Bach 1G to be uncomfortable; mostly too narrow a rim. I wanted something a little larger than a Schilke 59. Marcinkiewicz 105 was a bit large, although I did like the rim.
I found the Schilke 60 and the Bach 1G to be uncomfortable; mostly too narrow a rim. I wanted something a little larger than a Schilke 59. Marcinkiewicz 105 was a bit large, although I did like the rim.
- Tooloud
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Although the question may probably be long solved:
For real bassbone-parts use the Schilke Symphony D6.0.
Really different from the normal 60, which I don't like. The D6.0 has a lot more core to the sound, like a trombone, not like a bad euphonium. Requires work above the staff, of course, but then again: Which bass-mouthpiece does not?
For real bassbone-parts use the Schilke Symphony D6.0.
Really different from the normal 60, which I don't like. The D6.0 has a lot more core to the sound, like a trombone, not like a bad euphonium. Requires work above the staff, of course, but then again: Which bass-mouthpiece does not?
- tbonesullivan
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Ferguson / Hornguys have worked with James New, the former mouthpiece guy at Kanstul. They have some very nice Minick Replicas. Their LS model is the closest to a Schilke 60 at 29.00 mm. That puts it a bit larger than the Yeo and the 1G. They also make some smaller ones.
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- JLivi
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[quote="paulyg"]Bach 1G, Yeo Replica, Wick 00AL
All I can think of.[/quote]
Those are almost 1mm smaller than the 60. I always reference the Hickeys conversion chart.
https://www.hickeys.com/assets/pdf/mpcechartbt706.pdf
Here's another one I like
http://www.dwerden.com/Mouthpieces/trombone.cfm
For what it's worth, I have a Hammond 20BXL that I'm thinking about selling (28.5mm). It's a little smaller than a 60, but larger than a 59 (bigger cup).
All I can think of.[/quote]
Those are almost 1mm smaller than the 60. I always reference the Hickeys conversion chart.
https://www.hickeys.com/assets/pdf/mpcechartbt706.pdf
Here's another one I like
http://www.dwerden.com/Mouthpieces/trombone.cfm
For what it's worth, I have a Hammond 20BXL that I'm thinking about selling (28.5mm). It's a little smaller than a 60, but larger than a 59 (bigger cup).
- tbonesullivan
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Just be aware that those charts show PUBLISHED specifications. As many have found out by taking actual measurements, there can be differences. There also can be a difference of opinion on where the rim ends and the cup begins.
- Burgerbob
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[quote="tbonesullivan"]Ferguson / Hornguys have worked with James New, the former mouthpiece guy at Kanstul. They have some very nice Minick Replicas. Their LS model is the closest to a Schilke 60 at 29.00 mm. That puts it a bit larger than the Yeo and the 1G. They also make some smaller ones.
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.hornguys.com/collections/tr ... mouthpiece">https://www.hornguys.com/collections/trombone-mouthpieces-1/products/ferguson-bass-trombone-mouthpiece</LINK_TEXT>[/quote]
Those also have a large, rounded rim. Very different from the "normal" large mouthpieces, if you like that.
<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.hornguys.com/collections/tr ... mouthpiece">https://www.hornguys.com/collections/trombone-mouthpieces-1/products/ferguson-bass-trombone-mouthpiece</LINK_TEXT>[/quote]
Those also have a large, rounded rim. Very different from the "normal" large mouthpieces, if you like that.
- tbonesullivan
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[quote="Burgerbob"]Those also have a large, rounded rim. Very different from the "normal" large mouthpieces, if you like that.[/quote] The tiny rims on most bass mouthpieces have honestly been a big issue for me. I had a Yamaha 60 for a while, but couldn't get past that "barely there" rim. It's also the reason why I am not a huge fan of some tuba mouthpieces: NO RIM.
The Ferguson mouthpieces seem to be different for each inside and out, as they are not made from blanks.
The Ferguson mouthpieces seem to be different for each inside and out, as they are not made from blanks.