I remember a topic on the old tromboneforum named "outer slide weigh in" where owners posted the weight of their trombone slides. I liked that very much. Maybe we can start a new list? Or is there a place where the old topics are listed?

- Yamaha YSL 683G 200 gr (sorry, we use Gramm and Kilogramm) yellow brass

- Conn 78H 254 gr yellow brass

- Besson 630 ( ex Boosey and Hawkes, maybe built by Kühnl and Hoyer in Germany) 200 gr yellow brass

The Yammie fits on the Conn and vice versa, same with the Yamaha 645..

I'll bite.

Yamaha 421G (bass) 220 gm

Courtois AC280BO (nickel) 290 gm

Olds Ambassador 190 gm

Never noticed my Yamaha's slide was so much lighter but I did notice the whole horn was lighter than my 0.547 tenor. Must be the bigger bore allowing in more lightweight air--I'm not serious.

BTW, my slides are not interchangeable (0.485 / 0.500; 0.547; and 0.563) But the bells of the Yamaha and the Courtios are happy with either slide between them.

Bach A47: 269

Bach 42: 272

King 3B: 207

Shires B62/78: 278

Edwards V: 285

Conn 112H: 234

Voight F contra: 308

Miraphone BBb contra: 593!

I have always preferred the Shires dual bore slide to my Edwards V (the single bore slide that comes with the B502) because it felt so much lighter. Those few grams make a big difference.

Also surprising is the F contra slide, which is only 20 grams heavier than a bass slide despite being longer and wider.

Couldn't find that thread with the search function. I still have the file where I sorted the outer slides by weight, but when I try to paste it in as a reply, the format becomes unrecognizable. If you're really interested in that old listing I could try to upload it somehow.

The Wayback Machine is your friend. Most of the time.

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[quote="Oslide"]Just for fun I compiled the data provided in a listing and added some of my own.

The formatting will go awry somehow, but hopefully it will still be clear enough.

Weight (g) Model Remarks Reporter

94 P-Bone JohnL

161.5 Doubleslyde all carbon fiber doubleslyde

165 K&H Slokar Alto sanfranboner

168 K&H BVL .512 LW all-nickel BiggieSmalls

170 Olds Featherweight Euphanasia

170 Olds Super Featherweight LA, pre-WWII JohnL

176 Schiller (Jinbao) Alto nickel silver dezignstuff

185 Bach 16MLT speaking from memory baileyman

185 Bach 9LT speaking from memory baileyman

185 King 2B Jiggs growlerbox

185 Minick 12 speaking from memory baileyman

187 Rath R2 Richard H

188.6 Bach LT12 dj kennedy

192 King 3B (1965) Richard H

192 Olds P-16 JohnL

195 Leuchter Tenor Sackbut w/ optional Kruspe water key MaestroHound

196 Yamaha 897Z TromboneMonkey

196.8 Courtois Xtreme dj kennedy

198 Bach 12 (1977) Oslide

199 Yamaha 681 wide nickel slide greenbean

200 Conn 14H robcat2075

200 Conn 24HLW (1964) BiggieSmalls

200 Williams Burbank 6 dj kennedy

204 Earl Strickler JohnL

204 Holton Stratodyne Oslide

204.1 Doubleslyde carbon fiber w/ brass crook doubleslyde

205 Bachs (small) speaking from memory, 205-210g baileyman

205 K&K 122 Alto sanfranboner

208 Olds P-15 JohnL

210.5 King 3B custom for splash bell dj kennedy

213 Olds Ambassador (1957) greenbean

213 Yamaha 350C greenbean

214 Conn 6H LW (1965) Oslide

214 King 2B (1960's) RichEKelly

214 King Tempo curvy Tempo greenbean

215 Conn 48H (Elkhart) lightweight slide dezignstuff

215 King 2B (early 1950's) Exzaclee

218 Conn Director 18H nickel slide ConnBone19

218 King Symphony (1485) JohnL

220 King 3B+ current model growlerbox

220 Yamaha 354 greenbean

221 Benge Symphonic 175 Vintage88H

221 Martin Committee (1950's) brass tubes RichEKelly

222.3 Selmer K mod dj kennedy

223 Williams Donelson 4 TromboneMonkey

224 King 3B dj kennedy

225 King 2B+ custom build dj kennedy

226 Olds Super (LA, pre-WWII) JohnL

227 King 3B dj kennedy

227 Martin Urbie Green w/ rubber protector Oslide

227.8 King 3B dj kennedy

228 Conn 4H (1928) Oslide

228 Olds Studio (1955) greenbean

230 Yamaha 446G greenbean

235 King 2B+ Custom made by Eric w/ Edwards lower tube RichEKelly

236 Bach Mercury (1941) Oslide

236 Yamaha 445 greenbean

238 Conn 6H (1959) BiggieSmalls

238 Conn Director 18H (1962) yellow brass slide ConnBone18

239 Martin Committee Oslide

240 Bach 42 brass dj kennedy

240 Olds Recording (1966) JohnL

241 Yamaha 648 greenbean

243 Yamaha 645 greenbean

244 Olds P-24G JohnL

245 Holton TR181 robcat2075

246 Conn 24H (1938) BiggieSmalls

246 Conn 32H (Elkhart) dezignstuff

246 Olds S-24G non-original slide lock lug w/patches JohnL

247 Conn 6H (Elkhart) dezignstuff

249 Bach 36 (1970s) TromboneMonkey

249 Shires B62 sanfranboner

250 Conn 30H MaestroHound

250 King Symphony brace not original, .546 straight bore MaestroHound

250 Yamaha YSL-682G MaestroHound

254 Bach 36 (1960's Elkhart) sanfranboner

255 King 608F MaestroHound

258 Benge Symphonic 190 Vintage88H

258 Conn 88H (late Elkhart) sanfranboner

259 Conn 79H (Elkhart) silver plate dezignstuff

261 Conn 8H/88H (new) greenbean

261 Doubleslyde Kanstul LW brass Doubleslyde doubleslyde

261.5 Voight [500] wide nickle w/ sleeves dj kennedy

263 Conn 88H "C" (1963) BiggieSmalls

264 Conn 2H (1930) fat oversleeves and crook guard Oslide

265 Conn 78H (1965) Elkhart Vintage88H

265 Conn 88H (1965) Elkhart Vintage88H

266 Shires TW47 sanfranboner

267 Conn 18H Tait (1925) TIS Oslide

269 Bach 42 (1980's) sanfranboner

269 Jupiter XO 1032 (2012) greenbean

271 Conn 88H "N" (1970) BiggieSmalls

271 Conn 88H (Elkhart) dezignstuff

271 Conn 8HT (525/547) Gen II dezignstuff

272 Conn 88H (early 1970's) greenbean

274 Holton 168 Vintage88H

275 Bach 42 stock dj kennedy

275 Conn 88H (late 1970's) greenbean

276 Conn 8H (late 1960's) greenbean

278 Olds Standard M (1922) TIS Oslide

280 Conn 8H (1949) BiggieSmalls

285 Kanstul 1662i bass TIS MaestroHound

286 Holton TR150 Vintage88H

291 Reynolds Contempora Bass 291 or 260g, depending on the scale donn

300 Kanstul 1662 (TIS) cyclelife

316 Olds Standard Bb-F-E JohnL

328 Olds S-20 (1969) JohnL[/quote]

Wait, two more from that TTF thread:

Conn 70h, 360

Edwards B-DB, 303

Nice work, JohnL. And thanks to Oslide for compiling all the weights on the thread!

Here is Oslide's compendium is a neater table format.

<TABLE>[table]
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]Weight (g)</TD>
<TD>[td]Model</TD>
<TD>[td]Remarks</TD>
<TD>[td]Reporter</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]94</TD>
<TD>[td]P-Bone</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]161.5</TD>
<TD>[td]Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]all carbon fiber</TD>
<TD>[td]doubleslyde</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]165</TD>
<TD>[td]K and H Slokar Alto</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]168</TD>
<TD>[td]KH BVL .512 LW</TD>
<TD>[td]all-nickel</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]170</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Featherweight</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Euphanasia</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]170</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Super Featherweight</TD>
<TD>[td]LA, pre-WWII</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]176</TD>
<TD>[td]Schiller (Jinbao) Alto</TD>
<TD>[td]nickel silver</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 16MLT</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 9LT</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B Jiggs</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]growlerbox</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]Minick 12</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]187</TD>
<TD>[td]Rath R2</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Richard H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]188.6</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach LT12</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]190</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Ambassador</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]walldaja</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]192</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B (1965)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Richard H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]192</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds P-16</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]195</TD>
<TD>[td]Leuchter Tenor Sackbut</TD>
<TD>[td]w/ optional Kruspe water key</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]196</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 897Z</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]TromboneMonkey</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]196.8</TD>
<TD>[td]Courtois Xtreme</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]198</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 12 (1977)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]199</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 681</TD>
<TD>[td]wide nickel slide</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha YSL683G</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass</TD>
<TD>[td]Andre1966tr</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Besson 630</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass, maybe built by K and H</TD>
<TD>[td]Andre1966tr</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 14H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]robcat2075</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 24HLW (1964)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Williams Burbank 6</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]204</TD>
<TD>[td]Earl Strickler</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]204</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton Stratodyne</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]204.1</TD>
<TD>[td]Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]carbon fiber w/ brass crook</TD>
<TD>[td]doubleslyde</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]205</TD>
<TD>[td]Bachs (small)</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory, 205-210g</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]205</TD>
<TD>[td]K and H 122 Alto</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]207</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]208</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds P-15</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]210.5</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]custom for splash bell</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]213</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Ambassador (1957)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]213</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 350C</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]214</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H LW (1965)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]214</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B (1960's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]214</TD>
<TD>[td]King Tempo</TD>
<TD>[td]curvy Tempo</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]215</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 48H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]lightweight slide</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]215</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B (early 1950's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Exzaclee</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]218</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn Director 18H</TD>
<TD>[td]nickel slide</TD>
<TD>[td]ConnBone19</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]218</TD>
<TD>[td]King Symphony (1485)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]220</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B+</TD>
<TD>[td]current model</TD>
<TD>[td]growlerbox</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]220</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 421G</TD>
<TD>[td]walldaja</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]220</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 354</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]221</TD>
<TD>[td]Benge Symphonic 175</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]221</TD>
<TD>[td]Martin Committee (1950's)</TD>
<TD>[td]brass tubes</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]222.3</TD>
<TD>[td]Selmer K mod</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]223</TD>
<TD>[td]Williams Donelson 4</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]TromboneMonkey</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]224</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]225</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B+</TD>
<TD>[td]custom build</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]226</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Super (LA, pre-WWII)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]227</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]227</TD>
<TD>[td]Martin Urbie Green</TD>
<TD>[td]w/ rubber protector</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]227.8</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]228</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 4H (1928)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]228</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Studio (1955)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]230</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 446G</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]234</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 112H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]235</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B+ Custom</TD>
<TD>[td]made by Eric w/ Edwards lower tube</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]236</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach Mercury (1941)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]236</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 445</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]238</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H (1959)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]238</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn Director 18H (1962)</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass slide</TD>
<TD>[td]ConnBone18</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]239</TD>
<TD>[td]Martin Committee</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]240</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42b</TD>
<TD>[td]brass</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]240</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Recording (1966)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]241</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 648</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]243</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 645</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]244</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds P-24G</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]245</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton TR181</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]robcat2075</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]246</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 24H (1938)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]246</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 32H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]246</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds S-24G</TD>
<TD>[td]non-original slide lock lug w/patches</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]247</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]249</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 36 (1970s)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]TromboneMonkey</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]249</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires B62</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]250</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 30H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]250</TD>
<TD>[td]King Symphony</TD>
<TD>[td]brace not original, .546 straight bore</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]250</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha YSL-682G</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]254</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 78H</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass</TD>
<TD>[td]Andre1966tr</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]254</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 36 (1960's Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]255</TD>
<TD>[td]King 608F</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]258</TD>
<TD>[td]Benge Symphonic 190</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]258</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (late Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]259</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 79H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]silver plate</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]261</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8H/88H (new)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]261</TD>
<TD>[td]Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]Kanstul LW brass Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]doubleslyde</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]261.5</TD>
<TD>[td]Voight [500]</TD>
<TD>[td]wide nickle w/ sleeves</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]263</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H "C" (1963)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]264</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 2H (1930)</TD>
<TD>[td]fat oversleeves and crook guard</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]265</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 78H (1965) Elkhart</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]265</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (1965) Elkhart</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]266</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires TW47</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]267</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 18H Tait (1925) TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]269</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42 (1980's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]269</TD>
<TD>[td]Jupiter XO 1032 (2012)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]269</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach A47</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]271</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H "N" (1970)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]271</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]271</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8HT (525/547) Gen II</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]272</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (early 1970's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]272</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]274</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton 168</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]275</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42</TD>
<TD>[td]stock</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]275</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (late 1970's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]276</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8H (late 1960's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td ]278</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires B62/78</TD>
<TD>[td ]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]278</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Standard M (1922) TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]280</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8H (1949)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]285</TD>
<TD>[td]Kanstul 1662i bass TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]285</TD>
<TD>[td]Edwards V</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]286</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton TR150</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]290</TD>
<TD>[td]Courtois AC280BO</TD>
<TD>[td]nickel</TD>
<TD>[td]walldaja</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]291</TD>
<TD>[td]Reynolds Contempora Bass</TD>
<TD>[td]291 or 260g, depending on the scale</TD>
<TD>[td]donn</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]300</TD>
<TD>[td]Kanstul 1662 (TIS)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]cyclelife</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]303</TD>
<TD>[td]Edwards B-DB</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]308</TD>
<TD>[td]Voight F Contra</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]316</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Standard Bb-F-E</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]328</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds S-20 (1969)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]360</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 70H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]593</TD>
<TD>[td]Miraphone BBb Contra</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>

Thank you, JohnL ! :good: :hi:

This seems like a great entry for the Trombone Chat Wiki.

Don't know if anyone else is having trouble, but I can't see to login to the wiki portion of the site. :( (I've emailed Matt about the problem I'm having.)

--Andy in OKC

Great!! Thank you all... :good:

I would have never noticed how heavy my slide was except for this information. Thanks for the great work!

[quote="afugate"]This seems like a great entry for the Trombone Chat Wiki.[/quote]
In a perfect world, it would be in a nice, sortable table.

Given that this is gathered from many sources, there's bound to be some bad data. There's also some models (Conn 70H!) that were produced in several different configurations and it'd be nice to know which version was weighed.

Bach 6 (‘33 NY std. brass) 233

Bach 6 (‘36 NY std. brass, mod .485-.509) 249

Bach 12 (‘70s Corp, std. brass) 231

Bach 36 (‘40 NY, std. brass) 277

Conn 6H (‘66 std. brass, Elkhart) 251

Conn 6H (‘60s std. brass, Elkhart) 233

Conn 70H (‘52 std. brass TIS) 360

King Liberty ( ‘39, std. brass, mod .481-.500) 231

King 2b+, 2115 (‘84 lw gold brass) 225

King 2b+ (~2005, lw yellow brass) 213

Rath R10 (lw nickel) 173

Schmelzer 1 (std. nickel) 237

84 grams for the .500 Butler Carbon Fiber outer for my 2B+.

Updated

<TABLE>[table]
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]Weight (g)</TD>
<TD>[td]Model</TD>
<TD>[td]Remarks</TD>
<TD>[td]Reporter</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]84</TD>
<TD>[td]Butler Carbon Fiber (for 2B+)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]94</TD>
<TD>[td]P-Bone</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]161.5</TD>
<TD>[td]Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]all carbon fiber</TD>
<TD>[td]doubleslyde</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]165</TD>
<TD>[td]K and H Slokar Alto</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]168</TD>
<TD>[td]KH BVL .512 LW</TD>
<TD>[td]all-nickel</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]170</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Featherweight</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Euphanasia</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]170</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Super Featherweight</TD>
<TD>[td]LA, pre-WWII</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]173</TD>
<TD>[td]Rath R10</TD>
<TD>[td]lw nickel</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]176</TD>
<TD>[td]Schiller (Jinbao) Alto</TD>
<TD>[td]nickel silver</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 16MLT</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 9LT</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B Jiggs</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]growlerbox</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]Minick 12</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]187</TD>
<TD>[td]Rath R2</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Richard H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]188.6</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach LT12</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]190</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Ambassador</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]walldaja</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]192</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B (1965)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Richard H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]192</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds P-16</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]195</TD>
<TD>[td]Leuchter Tenor Sackbut</TD>
<TD>[td]w/ optional Kruspe water key</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]196</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 897Z</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]TromboneMonkey</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]196.8</TD>
<TD>[td]Courtois Xtreme</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]198</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 12 (1977)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]199</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 681</TD>
<TD>[td]wide nickel slide</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha YSL683G</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass</TD>
<TD>[td]Andre1966tr</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Besson 630</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass, maybe built by K and H</TD>
<TD>[td]Andre1966tr</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 14H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]robcat2075</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 24HLW (1964)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Williams Burbank 6</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]204</TD>
<TD>[td]Earl Strickler</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]204</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton Stratodyne</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]204.1</TD>
<TD>[td]Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]carbon fiber w/ brass crook</TD>
<TD>[td]doubleslyde</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]205</TD>
<TD>[td]Bachs (small)</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory, 205-210g</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]205</TD>
<TD>[td]KK 122 Alto</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]207</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]208</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds P-15</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]210.5</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]custom for splash bell</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]213</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Ambassador (1957)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]213</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 350C</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]213</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B+</TD>
<TD>[td]~2005, lw yellow brass</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]214</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H LW (1965)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]214</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B (1960's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]214</TD>
<TD>[td]King Tempo</TD>
<TD>[td]curvy Tempo</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]215</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 48H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]lightweight slide</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]215</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B (early 1950's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Exzaclee</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]218</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn Director 18H</TD>
<TD>[td]nickel slide</TD>
<TD>[td]ConnBone19</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]218</TD>
<TD>[td]King Symphony (1485)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]220</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B+</TD>
<TD>[td]current model</TD>
<TD>[td]growlerbox</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]220</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 421G</TD>
<TD>[td]walldaja</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]220</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 354</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]221</TD>
<TD>[td]Benge Symphonic 175</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]221</TD>
<TD>[td]Martin Committee (1950's)</TD>
<TD>[td]brass tubes</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]222.3</TD>
<TD>[td]Selmer K mod</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]223</TD>
<TD>[td]Williams Donelson 4</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]TromboneMonkey</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]224</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]225</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B+</TD>
<TD>[td]custom build</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]225</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B+/2115</TD>
<TD>[td]‘84 lw gold brass</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]226</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Super (LA, pre-WWII)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]227</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]227</TD>
<TD>[td]Martin Urbie Green</TD>
<TD>[td]w/ rubber protector</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]227.8</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]228</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 4H (1928)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]228</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Studio (1955)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]230</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 446G</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]231</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 12</TD>
<TD>[td]‘70s Corp, std. brass</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]231</TD>
<TD>[td]King Liberty</TD>
<TD>[td]‘39, std. brass, mod

.481-.500</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]233</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 6</TD>
<TD>[td]‘33 NY std. brass</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]233</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H</TD>
<TD>[td]‘60s std. brass, Elkhart</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]234</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 112H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]235</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B+ Custom</TD>
<TD>[td]made by Eric w/ Edwards lower tube</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]236</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach Mercury (1941)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]236</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 445</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]237</TD>
<TD>[td]Schmelzer 1</TD>
<TD>[td]std. nickel</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]238</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H (1959)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]238</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn Director 18H (1962)</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass slide</TD>
<TD>[td]ConnBone18</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]239</TD>
<TD>[td]Martin Committee</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]240</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42b</TD>
<TD>[td]brass</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]240</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Recording (1966)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]241</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 648</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]243</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 645</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]244</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds P-24G</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]245</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton TR181</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]robcat2075</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]246</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 24H (1938)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]246</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 32H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]246</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds S-24G</TD>
<TD>[td]non-original slide lock lug w/patches</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]247</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]249</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 36 (1970s)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]TromboneMonkey</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]249</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires B62</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]249</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 6</TD>
<TD>[td]‘36 NY std. brass, mod .485-.509</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]250</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 30H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]250</TD>
<TD>[td]King Symphony</TD>
<TD>[td]brace not original, .546 straight bore</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]250</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha YSL-682G</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]251</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H</TD>
<TD>[td]‘66 std. brass, Elkhart</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]254</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 78H</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass</TD>
<TD>[td]Andre1966tr</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]254</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 36 (1960's Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]255</TD>
<TD>[td]King 608F</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]258</TD>
<TD>[td]Benge Symphonic 190</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]258</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (late Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]259</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 79H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]silver plate</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]261</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8H/88H (new)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]261</TD>
<TD>[td]Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]Kanstul LW brass Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]doubleslyde</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]261.5</TD>
<TD>[td]Voight (500)</TD>
<TD>[td]wide nickle w/ sleeves</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]263</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H "C" (1963)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]264</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 2H (1930)</TD>
<TD>[td]fat oversleeves and crook guard</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]265</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 78H (1965) Elkhart</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]265</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (1965) Elkhart</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]266</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires TW47</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]267</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 18H Tait (1925) TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]269</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42 (1980's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]269</TD>
<TD>[td]Jupiter XO 1032 (2012)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]269</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach A47</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]271</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H "N" (1970)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]271</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]271</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8HT (525/547) Gen II</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]272</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (early 1970's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]272</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]274</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton 168</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]275</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42</TD>
<TD>[td]stock</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]275</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (late 1970's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]276</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8H (late 1960's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]277</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 36</TD>
<TD>[td]‘40 NY, std. brass</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]278</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires B62/78</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]278</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Standard M (1922) TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]280</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8H (1949)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]285</TD>
<TD>[td]Kanstul 1662i bass TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]285</TD>
<TD>[td]Edwards V</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]286</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton TR150</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]290</TD>
<TD>[td]Courtois AC280BO</TD>
<TD>[td]nickel</TD>
<TD>[td]walldaja</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]291</TD>
<TD>[td]Reynolds Contempora Bass</TD>
<TD>[td]291 or 260g, depending on the scale</TD>
<TD>[td]donn</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]300</TD>
<TD>[td]Kanstul 1662 (TIS)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]cyclelife</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]303</TD>
<TD>[td]Edwards B-DB</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]bigbassbone1</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]308</TD>
<TD>[td]Voight F Contra</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]316</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Standard Bb-F-E</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]328</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds S-20 (1969)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]360</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 70H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]bigbassbone1</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]360</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 70H</TD>
<TD>[td]‘52 std. brass TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]593</TD>
<TD>[td]Miraphone BBb Contra</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
</TABLE>

:good: :hi:

So obviously my kitchen weight scale is way off (which would account for some baking disasters);

my M&W gold brass slide weighed 636 grams...

[quote="Chatname"]So obviously my kitchen weight scale is way off (which would account for some baking disasters);

my M&W gold brass slide weighed 636 grams...[/quote]
Just the outer slide?

You should check your scale with a known weight...

197 grams King Tempo 606 (1987)

243 grams King 4B (1972)

328 grams Holton Tr180 (70s) - not original inners and outers.

Aha, outer slide only! Then the numbers make more sense! My M&W slide is at work now but I have a Shires TW2547LW at home, weighs in at 232 grams.

[quote="Chatname"]Aha, outer slide only! Then the numbers make more sense![/quote]
Would one of the mods be so kind as to change the name of this thread to include "outer"?

Done.

Butler CF slide - 0.00 (almost)

M&W wide yellow brass slide 287grams

Shires regular weight .525 - 260G

Shires regular weight .508 - 234G

Lawler all brass .500 - 187G

Thank you John for your great and interesting chart of the slide weights. I printed it out to keep!!

Bach 50 with nickel crook: 276

Edwards TBCN: 279

1921 Conn 78H : 269grams... Surprised at this.. Long, heavy sleeves and red brass... Would have thought it weighed more..

Courtois AC130 Alto: 162

Conn 4H LW (1949): 187

Conn 4H (1955): 236

Conn 30H (1933): 252

Olds Super (1937): 238

Olds Standard (1946): 222

Olds Super (1947): 208

Olds Recording (1950, red brass): 249

Old Recording (1955, nickel silver): 255

Olds P-22 GR Model (1977): 266

<TABLE>[table]
[tbody]
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]Weight (g)</TD>
<TD>[td]Model</TD>
<TD>[td]Remarks</TD>
<TD>[td]Reporter</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]84</TD>
<TD>[td]Butler Carbon Fiber (for 2B+)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]94</TD>
<TD>[td]P-Bone</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]161.5</TD>
<TD>[td]Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]all carbon fiber</TD>
<TD>[td]doubleslyde</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]162</TD>
<TD>[td]Courtois AC130 Alto</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]FEWeathers</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]165</TD>
<TD>[td]K and H Slokar Alto</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]168</TD>
<TD>[td]KH BVL .512 LW</TD>
<TD>[td]all-nickel</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]170</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Featherweight</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Euphanasia</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]170</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Super Featherweight</TD>
<TD>[td]LA, pre-WWII</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]173</TD>
<TD>[td]Rath R10</TD>
<TD>[td]lw nickel</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]176</TD>
<TD>[td]Schiller (Jinbao) Alto</TD>
<TD>[td]nickel silver</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 16MLT</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 9LT</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B Jiggs</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]growlerbox</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]185</TD>
<TD>[td]Minick 12</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]187</TD>
<TD>[td]Rath R2</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Richard H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]187</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 4H LW</TD>
<TD>[td]1949</TD>
<TD>[td]FEWeathers</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]187</TD>
<TD>[td]Lawler .500"</TD>
<TD>[td]all brass</TD>
<TD>[td]MalecHeermans</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]188.6</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach LT12</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]190</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Ambassador</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]walldaja</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]192</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B (1965)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Richard H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]192</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds P-16</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]195</TD>
<TD>[td]Leuchter Tenor Sackbut</TD>
<TD>[td]w/ optional Kruspe water key</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]196</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 897Z</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]TromboneMonkey</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]196.8</TD>
<TD>[td]Courtois Xtreme</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]197</TD>
<TD>[td]King Tempo 606</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Kingfan</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]198</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 12 (1977)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]199</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 681</TD>
<TD>[td]wide nickel slide</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha YSL683G</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass</TD>
<TD>[td]Andre1966tr</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Besson 630</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass, maybe built by K and H</TD>
<TD>[td]Andre1966tr</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 14H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]robcat2075</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 24HLW (1964)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]200</TD>
<TD>[td]Williams Burbank 6</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]204</TD>
<TD>[td]Earl Strickler</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]204</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton Stratodyne</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]204.1</TD>
<TD>[td]Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]carbon fiber w/ brass crook</TD>
<TD>[td]doubleslyde</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]205</TD>
<TD>[td]Bachs (small)</TD>
<TD>[td]speaking from memory, 205-210g</TD>
<TD>[td]baileyman</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]205</TD>
<TD>[td]KK 122 Alto</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]207</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]208</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds P-15</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]208</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Super</TD>
<TD>[td]1947</TD>
<TD>[td]FEWeathers</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]210.5</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]custom for splash bell</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]213</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Ambassador (1957)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]213</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 350C</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]213</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B+</TD>
<TD>[td]~2005, lw yellow brass</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]214</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H LW (1965)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]214</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B (1960's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]214</TD>
<TD>[td]King Tempo</TD>
<TD>[td]curvy Tempo</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]215</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 48H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]lightweight slide</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]215</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B (early 1950's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Exzaclee</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]218</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn Director 18H</TD>
<TD>[td]nickel slide</TD>
<TD>[td]ConnBone19</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]218</TD>
<TD>[td]King Symphony (1485)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]220</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B+</TD>
<TD>[td]current model</TD>
<TD>[td]growlerbox</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]220</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 421G</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]walladja</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]220</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 354</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]221</TD>
<TD>[td]Benge Symphonic 175</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]221</TD>
<TD>[td]Martin Committee (1950's)</TD>
<TD>[td]brass tubes</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]222</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Standard</TD>
<TD>[td]1946</TD>
<TD>[td]FEWeathers</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]222.3</TD>
<TD>[td]Selmer K mod</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]223</TD>
<TD>[td]Williams Donelson 4</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]TromboneMonkey</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]224</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]225</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B+</TD>
<TD>[td]custom build</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]225</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B+/2115</TD>
<TD>[td]‘84 lw gold brass</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]226</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Super (LA, pre-WWII)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]227</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]227</TD>
<TD>[td]Martin Urbie Green</TD>
<TD>[td]w/ rubber protector</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]227.8</TD>
<TD>[td]King 3B</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]228</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 4H (1928)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]228</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Studio (1955)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]230</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 446G</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]231</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 12</TD>
<TD>[td]‘70s Corp, std. brass</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]231</TD>
<TD>[td]King Liberty</TD>
<TD>[td]‘39, std. brass, mod

.481-.500</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]232</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires TW2547LW</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Chatname</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]233</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 6</TD>
<TD>[td]‘33 NY std. brass</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]233</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H</TD>
<TD>[td]‘60s std. brass, Elkhart</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]234</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 112H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]234</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires .508</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MalecHeermans</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]235</TD>
<TD>[td]King 2B+ Custom</TD>
<TD>[td]made by Eric w/ Edwards lower tube</TD>
<TD>[td]RichEKelly</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]236</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach Mercury (1941)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]236</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 4H</TD>
<TD>[td]1955</TD>
<TD>[td]FEWeathers</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]236</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 445</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]237</TD>
<TD>[td]Schmelzer 1</TD>
<TD>[td]std. nickel</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]238</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H (1959)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]238</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Super</TD>
<TD>[td]1937</TD>
<TD>[td]FEWeathers</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]238</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn Director 18H (1962)</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass slide</TD>
<TD>[td]ConnBone18</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]239</TD>
<TD>[td]Martin Committee</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]240</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42b</TD>
<TD>[td]brass</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]240</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Recording (1966)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]241</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 648</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]243</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha 645</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]243</TD>
<TD>[td]King 4B</TD>
<TD>[td]1972</TD>
<TD>[td]Kingfan</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]244</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds P-24G</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]245</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton TR181</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]robcat2075</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]246</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 24H (1938)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]246</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 32H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]246</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds S-24G</TD>
<TD>[td]non-original slide lock lug w/patches</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]247</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]249</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 36 (1970s)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]TromboneMonkey</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]249</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires B62</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]249</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 6</TD>
<TD>[td]‘36 NY std. brass, mod .485-.509</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]249</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Recording</TD>
<TD>[td]1950, red brass outers</TD>
<TD>[td]FEWeathers</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]250</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 30H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]250</TD>
<TD>[td]King Symphony</TD>
<TD>[td]brace not original, .546 straight bore</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]250</TD>
<TD>[td]Yamaha YSL-682G</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]251</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 6H</TD>
<TD>[td]‘66 std. brass, Elkhart</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]252</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 30H</TD>
<TD>[td]1933</TD>
<TD>[td]FEWeathers</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]254</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 78H</TD>
<TD>[td]yellow brass</TD>
<TD>[td]Andre1966tr</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]254</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 36 (1960's Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]255</TD>
<TD>[td]King 608F</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]255</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Recording</TD>
<TD>[td]1955; nickel silver outers</TD>
<TD>[td]FEWeathers</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]258</TD>
<TD>[td]Benge Symphonic 190</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]258</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (late Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]259</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 79H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]silver plate</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]260</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires .525"</TD>
<TD>[td]regular weight</TD>
<TD>[td]MalecHeermans</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]261</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8H/88H (new)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]261</TD>
<TD>[td]Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]Kanstul LW brass Doubleslyde</TD>
<TD>[td]doubleslyde</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]261.5</TD>
<TD>[td]Voight (500)</TD>
<TD>[td]wide nickle w/ sleeves</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]263</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H "C" (1963)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]264</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 2H (1930)</TD>
<TD>[td]fat oversleeves and crook guard</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]265</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 78H (1965) Elkhart</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]265</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (1965) Elkhart</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]266</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires TW47</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]266</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds P-22 George Roberts</TD>
<TD>[td]1977</TD>
<TD>[td]FEWeathers</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]267</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 18H Tait (1925) TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]269</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42</TD>
<TD>[td] 1980's</TD>
<TD>[td]sanfranboner</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]269</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 78H</TD>
<TD>[td]Long, heavy sleeves and red brass</TD>
<TD>[td]Tbarh</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]269</TD>
<TD>[td]Jupiter XO 1032 (2012)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]269</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach A47</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]271</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H "N" (1970)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]271</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (Elkhart)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]271</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8HT (525/547) Gen II</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]dezignstuff</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]272</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (early 1970's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]272</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]274</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton 168</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]275</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 42</TD>
<TD>[td]stock</TD>
<TD>[td]dj kennedy</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]275</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 88H (late 1970's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]276</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8H (late 1960's)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]greenbean</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]276</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 50</TD>
<TD>[td]nickel silver crook</TD>
<TD>[td]Burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]277</TD>
<TD>[td]Bach 36</TD>
<TD>[td]‘40 NY, std. brass</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]278</TD>
<TD>[td]Shires B62/78</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]278</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Standard M (1922) TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Oslide</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]279</TD>
<TD>[td]Edwards TBCN</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]280</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 8H (1949)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]BiggieSmalls</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]285</TD>
<TD>[td]Kanstul 1662i bass TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]MaestroHound</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]285</TD>
<TD>[td]Edwards V</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]286</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton TR150</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Vintage88H</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]287</TD>
<TD>[td]M&W</TD>
<TD>[td] wide yellow brass slide</TD>
<TD>[td]Chatname</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]290</TD>
<TD>[td]Courtois AC280BO</TD>
<TD>[td]nickel</TD>
<TD>[td]walldaja</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]291</TD>
<TD>[td]Reynolds Contempora Bass</TD>
<TD>[td]291 or 260g, depending on the scale</TD>
<TD>[td]donn</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]300</TD>
<TD>[td]Kanstul 1662 (TIS)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]cyclelife</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]303</TD>
<TD>[td]Edwards B-DB</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]bigbassbone1</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]308</TD>
<TD>[td]Voight F Contra</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]316</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds Standard Bb-F-E</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]328</TD>
<TD>[td]Olds S-20 (1969)</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]JohnL</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]328</TD>
<TD>[td]Holton TR180</TD>
<TD>[td]Replacement tubes</TD>
<TD>[td]Kingfan</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]360</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 70H</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]bigbassbone1</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]360</TD>
<TD>[td]Conn 70H</TD>
<TD>[td]‘52 std. brass TIS</TD>
<TD>[td]cctbone</TD>
</TR>
<TR>[tr]
<TD>[td]593</TD>
<TD>[td]Miraphone BBb Contra</TD>
<TD>[td]</TD>
<TD>[td]Burgerbob</TD>
</TR>
[/tbody]
</TABLE>

[quote="Chatname"]M&W wide yellow brass slide 287grams[/quote]
more details?

I'd like to add a couple.

Conn 110H circa 1995 252g all Rose.

B&S Sarastro Bass 2016 301g nickel with gold bow.

Ross

Hi!

Just found this topic, very interesting to read through all the different weights!

I weighed the outers of my Shires B62NLW-slide and it was 266 grams. But I should mention that I didn’t remove the leather handguard.

Cheers

259g Kruspe Weschke 1920‘s, gold brass with silver nickel, siphon

Some of those numbers look a bit off. The King 3B slide is definitely not a lightweight slide. Neither is the Super. Are you sure those numbers are accurate?

The weight of the slides for different instruments of the "same" models may differ slightly. So it would be good to collect measurements for many instruments of the same model. This would also make individual measurement errors less important (and perhaps easy to spot). It would also tell us which manufacturers build slides more consistently.

[quote="Arrowhead"]Some of those numbers look a bit off. The King 3B slide is definitely not a lightweight slide. Neither is the Super. Are you sure those numbers are accurate?[/quote]

On the 3B slides on the chart? 3B isn't light, but it's not heavy. Looks right to me.

[quote="Arrowhead"]Some of those numbers look a bit off. The King 3B slide is definitely not a lightweight slide. Neither is the Super. Are you sure those numbers are accurate?[/quote]
I'm sure my numbers are accurate (within the limits of my scale, which is not certified). I neither stake claim to nor accept responsibility for the others. All I did was organize them into a table.

Would it be possible to have something better? Sure. Certified, calibrated scales. Serial numbers. Make sure the data is for unmodified slides that are perfectly clean and dry and have never been refinished. Just plain lots more data points. But this is the data we have.

As for Super slides? They're lighter than they look.

My Butler CF slide for a King DG (6B)is 98g (Saturn water key)

Regarding 3B slides, depends on when they were manufactured. Older ones have oversleeves and are heavier. Newer ones (maybe mid-70s on, though not sure when they started doing this) have double drawn outers with no oversleeves. These are definitely lighter than their older counterparts.

Egger tenor sackbut, standard Hainlein model, 217g

The only one sticking out to me is the Holton 180 slide weighing in at more than almost everything on the list. What the replacement tubes, kitchen sink drain parts?

Early 90's Bach 42 LT slide with bronze M/K crook: 228g.

I'd be curious to see what a stock LT slide weights in at and whether the crook makes a notable difference or not (maybe a few grams but nothing significant I would guess). In any case interesting that it's around 40 grams lighter than the standard 42 slide and near the bottom of the scale in the same range as small bore horns.

A few more...

Conn 44H - yellow brass - 235g

Holton TR102 - nickel silver - 215g

Rath R4 - yellow brass - 267g

Weril TIS alto- 279g

Bach .525 (wide Shires crook, rose outers)- 268g

Bach 36 gold plated- 259g

Olds Ambassador -210 (w/leather grip)

Roth 1959- 260

1936 Bach 6 NY - 210.2g

2016 DaCarbo .500 - 185.7g

2016 BAC Elliot Mason Signature .491 (yellow w/nickel crook) - 176g

1972 Conn 88H (R s/n) - 275g

1966 Olds O-15 Opera - 269.5g

Late 80's Yamaha 613G - 248g

Early 80's Yamaha 612 (gold plated) - 259g

2010 Miraphone 670G BBb contra - <U>635g</U>

[quote="IdoMeshulam"]

2010 Miraphone 670G BBb contra - <U>635g</U>[/quote]

I forgot how much heavier yours was.

Rath R1 - 181g

1978 Bach LT16M - 195g

Bach Soloist straight t-bone, 220g

Benge 290 - 260g

[quote="Nobbi"]Shires Marshall Gilkes TBMG outer slide: 240g

For comparison ... Lawler 3 outer slide: 178g[/quote]

Conn 6H (1952) yellow brass: 255g

Conn 88H (1978 Abilene): 273g

King 606 (1981) yellow brass: 208g

Would it be too much to start a thread listing slide widths? center-to-center... The completionist in me cries out for more measuring!

[quote="although"]Would it be too much to start a thread listing slide widths? center-to-center... The completionist in me cries out for more measuring![/quote]

[url]https://trombonechat.com/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=18492

(Not center-to-center, to keep things as simple as possible, [url=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Close_Enough_for_Jazz]but...)

XO 1634 185g

Holton TR156 (dual bore) - 293g

A few more:

1973 Bach 16 Corp. - 232g

19?? King 2B - 214g

1956 King 2B - 226g

1977 King 3B - 202g

1993 King 3B (silver plated) - 224g

2019 BAC W6 (silver plated) - 215g

1977 Yamaha 643 - 242g

1997 Blessing B88 - 288g

2000 Blessing B88 - 281g

2008 Shires SL 47-62: 257 g

Late 1970s Bach 42: 262 g

Early 1960s King 3B (Silversonic but I don’t think that affects the slide!): 213 g

1929 Conn 78H: 273 g