Bach Mt Vernon Model 26
- DanTomassone
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- Joined: Dec 02, 2019
Anybody have specs on a Bach Mt. Vernon Model 26?
I just aquyred one and should have it in hand in a week.
I just aquyred one and should have it in hand in a week.
- TromboneSam
- Posts: 223
- Joined: Jul 30, 2018
The only mention of a Bach 26 I’ve ever seen is in the following handwritten correspondence, starting with horn notes from John “Peppy” Pettinato in 1957. While the letter from 1988 doesn’t give the exact specs, it does mention that the model in fact, existed. Other than it being a medium-bore horn, I haven’t found anything on it, even in the far corners of the old tromboneforum archives.
The letters are actually pretty cool. The actual notes themselves are from Peppy to Sheldon Ginsburg, who was a Philly trombonist at the time. The next letter (1988) is from Sheldon to Dick Dreiwitz, who was a Philly trombonist at the time and is (as of 2018, to my knowledge) still active in the NYC scene. I’m not sure who John is in the third letter, though.
Either way, check ‘em out! Nobody yet on the internet knows where the missing notes ended up, but when your horn comes in, you may be able to give some insight on what many may consider a lost piece of history.
Grab a micrometer and/or a good tech and please keep us posted!
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The letters are actually pretty cool. The actual notes themselves are from Peppy to Sheldon Ginsburg, who was a Philly trombonist at the time. The next letter (1988) is from Sheldon to Dick Dreiwitz, who was a Philly trombonist at the time and is (as of 2018, to my knowledge) still active in the NYC scene. I’m not sure who John is in the third letter, though.
Either way, check ‘em out! Nobody yet on the internet knows where the missing notes ended up, but when your horn comes in, you may be able to give some insight on what many may consider a lost piece of history.
Grab a micrometer and/or a good tech and please keep us posted!
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- TromboneSam
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- Joined: Jul 30, 2018
Link fixed
- RJMason
- Posts: 390
- Joined: Jun 05, 2018
I owned a Bach New York Model 30 for a time. Beautiful horn. Sold it because the specs were too unique and less versatile. Also was in mint condition and was too afraid to tour with it. .514/.525 dual bore gold brass slide. Gold brass bell, 8 inch, but bass trombone gauge so tenor mutes fell out of the bell. Shop card indicated it as a model 32, but crossed off and said “sell as 30”, so maybe someone put the wrong stamp on it when building? Sound was lush and beautiful, kind of regret it, but made some money off of the sale.
Perhaps the 26 will be slightly smaller, like .508/.514? Looking forward to reading more!
Perhaps the 26 will be slightly smaller, like .508/.514? Looking forward to reading more!
- DanTomassone
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- Joined: Dec 02, 2019
Thanks for the notes. I knew Sheldon, or Shelly quite well! Sadly he died way back around 1992?
- TromboneSam
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- Joined: Jul 30, 2018
No problem, Dan!
For those who didn't catch the post on Facebook, this Bach 26 features an 8" bell and .515" bore. I imagine those were the standard specs for most 26's, given the specs of the other "medium-large" bore horns.
For those who didn't catch the post on Facebook, this Bach 26 features an 8" bell and .515" bore. I imagine those were the standard specs for most 26's, given the specs of the other "medium-large" bore horns.
- elmsandr
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- Joined: Mar 23, 2018
[quote="TromboneSam"]No problem, Dan!
For those who didn't catch the post on Facebook, this Bach 26 features an 8" bell and .515" bore. I imagine those were the standard specs for most 26's, given the specs of the other "medium-large" bore horns.[/quote]
Which group? Were there pics?
Cheers,
Andy
For those who didn't catch the post on Facebook, this Bach 26 features an 8" bell and .515" bore. I imagine those were the standard specs for most 26's, given the specs of the other "medium-large" bore horns.[/quote]
Which group? Were there pics?
Cheers,
Andy
- HawaiiTromboneGuy
- Posts: 1025
- Joined: Sep 03, 2018
[quote="elmsandr"]<QUOTE author="TromboneSam" post_id="99504" time="1575659056" user_id="3584">
No problem, Dan!
For those who didn't catch the post on Facebook, this Bach 26 features an 8" bell and .515" bore. I imagine those were the standard specs for most 26's, given the specs of the other "medium-large" bore horns.[/quote]
Which group? Were there pics?
Cheers,
Andy
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It was in the “Custom and Vintage Trombones of the World” group. Sold for $1499. Here are the pics.
No problem, Dan!
For those who didn't catch the post on Facebook, this Bach 26 features an 8" bell and .515" bore. I imagine those were the standard specs for most 26's, given the specs of the other "medium-large" bore horns.[/quote]
Which group? Were there pics?
Cheers,
Andy
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It was in the “Custom and Vintage Trombones of the World” group. Sold for $1499. Here are the pics.
- Leanit
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- Joined: Sep 04, 2018
So cool to see all those old prototype dimensions. My NY Bach was born .500/.514. Retrofitted to .508.
- TromboneSam
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- Joined: Jul 30, 2018
Interesting! Did it have a bell/slide model number?
- BGuttman
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- Joined: Mar 22, 2018
[quote="TromboneSam"]Interesting! Did it have a bell/slide model number?[/quote]
Look at the picture of the slide.
Look at the picture of the slide.
- HawaiiTromboneGuy
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- Joined: Sep 03, 2018
[quote="BGuttman"]<QUOTE author="TromboneSam" post_id="99705" time="1575960623" user_id="3584">
Interesting! Did it have a bell/slide model number?[/quote]
Look at the picture of the slide.
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I think he was referring to Leanit’s post about his horn.
Interesting! Did it have a bell/slide model number?[/quote]
Look at the picture of the slide.
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I think he was referring to Leanit’s post about his horn.
- Leanit
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- Joined: Sep 04, 2018
[quote="HawaiiTromboneGuy"]<QUOTE author="BGuttman" post_id="99715" time="1575982643" user_id="53">
Look at the picture of the slide.[/quote]
I think he was referring to Leanit’s post about his horn.
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Oh, me? Bell number 401. No model number. Serial number 13. "MD" on the grip for "medium bore".
Look at the picture of the slide.[/quote]
I think he was referring to Leanit’s post about his horn.
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Oh, me? Bell number 401. No model number. Serial number 13. "MD" on the grip for "medium bore".