Yamaha YSL-882OR
- MTbassbone
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Anyone have any experiences with this horn? What's the deal with the leadpipe? It appears to be removable, but I don't see any other lead pipe options for purchase. Is the rotor just a larger version of their normal rotor valve? I played one this last week, and thought it had some nice qualities.
- Burgerbob
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It's my favorite of the large tenor Xenos. I have played one that was absolute garbage, didn't center at all, but I've played several others that were great.
- tbonesullivan
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The 882OR and 882 both have removable leadpipes, but they have never released any other options. Previous Yamaha offerings would usually come with the standard 3 leadpipes like most horns that feature them. You could probably get some press fit leadpipes from third party makers that would work nicely.
The "Balance Response" rotor is an internally vented rotor, that equalizes the pressure in the F-attachment before the valve is totally engaged, so there is no possibility of a "pop". I don't think it's really any bigger than the regular rotor.
The "Balance Response" rotor is an internally vented rotor, that equalizes the pressure in the F-attachment before the valve is totally engaged, so there is no possibility of a "pop". I don't think it's really any bigger than the regular rotor.
- norbie2018
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[quote="tbonesullivan"]Previous Yamaha offerings would usually come with the standard 3 leadpipes like most horns that feature them.[/quote]
Which trombones?
Which trombones?
- BGuttman
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[quote="norbie2018"]<QUOTE author="tbonesullivan" post_id="101290" time="1578037323" user_id="7063">
Previous Yamaha offerings would usually come with the standard 3 leadpipes like most horns that feature them.[/quote]
Which trombones?
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I think he's referring to the 68x and 64x medium and large bore horns.
Previous Yamaha offerings would usually come with the standard 3 leadpipes like most horns that feature them.[/quote]
Which trombones?
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I think he's referring to the 68x and 64x medium and large bore horns.
- tbonesullivan
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[quote="BGuttman"]<QUOTE author="norbie2018" post_id="101294" time="1578055756" user_id="2978">Which trombones?[/quote]I think he's referring to the 68x and 64x medium and large bore horns.
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Yeah, from the 90s I believe, or late 80s. My private teacher / band director had one. It was very nice, though suffered from a lot of acid bleed. You still see them around now and again. Very nice horns. The leadpipes were numbered 1 to 3 and basically were less open to more open, as the standard leadpipes that you see from Getzen/Edwards and others.
I think maybe Yamaha had the idea of working with additional professionals to get the same type of LA or NY thing like they had for the Jazz horns.
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Yeah, from the 90s I believe, or late 80s. My private teacher / band director had one. It was very nice, though suffered from a lot of acid bleed. You still see them around now and again. Very nice horns. The leadpipes were numbered 1 to 3 and basically were less open to more open, as the standard leadpipes that you see from Getzen/Edwards and others.
I think maybe Yamaha had the idea of working with additional professionals to get the same type of LA or NY thing like they had for the Jazz horns.
- fsgazda
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I seriously thought about buying one and one of my students bought one. IMO it's the best mass production Bach 42 out there.
- Jbeckett
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What threads from Edwards or shore work with the threaded adapter? Or would a bi-thread have to be installed?
- bassclef
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[quote="Jbeckett"]What threads from Edwards or shore work with the threaded adapter? Or would a bi-thread have to be installed?[/quote]
I can't speak for all of the threaded leadpipe options, but Edwards doesn't work with the Yamaha threads.
I have the 882 with the narrow slide. I also bought an 882OR slide from a person who had an Edwards leadpipe receiver swapped in, and had an Edwards ring put on the OR leadpipe. I tried screwing that pipe into my 882 slide, and it wasn't going to happen.
I can't speak for all of the threaded leadpipe options, but Edwards doesn't work with the Yamaha threads.
I have the 882 with the narrow slide. I also bought an 882OR slide from a person who had an Edwards leadpipe receiver swapped in, and had an Edwards ring put on the OR leadpipe. I tried screwing that pipe into my 882 slide, and it wasn't going to happen.
- tombone21
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Shires leadpipes will thread in, but the Yamaha receiver has less threads cut into it than the Shires leadpipe. Works well enough for testing but I wouldn't run it every day. Yamaha also makes a sterling silver leadpipe for it that you can find pop up for sale every couple years if you look for it, but I'm pretty sure their retail price for it is something ridiculous.
- Crazy4Tbone86
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I remember playing a couple of 882-ORs at the American Trombone Workshop about 15 years ago (it was probably still the “Eastern Trombone Workshop” back then). Both of the horns were amazing. I was very interested in buying one. At that time, the Yamaha rep told me that tje model was only available with a yellow brass bell, but the gold brass bell option would be available soon. I decided to wait.
Fast forward several months and I found out that the Washington Music Center had a couple in stock….they had a yellow brass bell and a gold brass bell. Neither of those horns had the magic. They were just as BurgerBob described……rather dull and didn’t center. I was disappointed.
Fast forward another year or two and a buddy of mine showed up at a rehearsal with a 882-OR with the gold brass bell. He sounded fantastic on it. He let me try it with my mouthpiece and it played wonderfully for me.
Moral of the story…….even though Yamaha attempts to be very consistent in their production process, there are still great variations in how their instruments play. Always play an instrument before you put your money down!
Fast forward several months and I found out that the Washington Music Center had a couple in stock….they had a yellow brass bell and a gold brass bell. Neither of those horns had the magic. They were just as BurgerBob described……rather dull and didn’t center. I was disappointed.
Fast forward another year or two and a buddy of mine showed up at a rehearsal with a 882-OR with the gold brass bell. He sounded fantastic on it. He let me try it with my mouthpiece and it played wonderfully for me.
Moral of the story…….even though Yamaha attempts to be very consistent in their production process, there are still great variations in how their instruments play. Always play an instrument before you put your money down!