What are some horns you will never sell?

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mrdeacon
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by mrdeacon »

I have some regrets... Horns I've traded and sold in the past... But now I've got some horns I'll never part with!

Do you guys have any horns you'll never sell no matter how destitute you are?

Here are my two basses I'll never sell!

The top is a Holton 169 I just picked up from Chris Stearn. (Chris the 60h is almost done!) It has an early TR180 slide and indy Brasslab valves. F/bG tuning.

The bottom is a full custom Minick bass trombone I've posted about before! J bend tuning slide, 9 1/4" Gold Brass wide throat style bell, single-bore slide. The original valves were in rough shape and I had John Sandhagen replace them with Olsen rotors! Plays like a Bach 50B and a 62H had a baby.

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Granted... I might get the itch and trade the Minick one day for something equally cool but that Holton is never going away!

I'm excited to play these horns! And post about them :pant:
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hyperbolica
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by hyperbolica »

I got an Elkhart 88h when I was in 6th grade, when it was much too big for me. But I grew into it, and it's really an amazing horn. I've had more than one tech tell me it was the nicest 88 they've played. No matter what happens, I'll never sell that horn.

I think anything else is fair game, but the next lower on the list would be my Kanstul 1662i. It took me a couple of years to warm up to it, and to be honest, I did list it for sale once, in a moment of weakness. But It has kind of a special tone and vibe I like.

I think I could play anything with these two horns.
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bigbandbone
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by bigbandbone »

72H no mods, 20H with 2B slide crook and short slided.
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paulyg
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by paulyg »

Latzsch model Kuhn alto.

Impulse-bought it sight unseen from the ITJ classifieds. Literally the best trombone I've ever played. I've heard the sterling-bell Glassls are incredible too, but I'm not holding my breath for one to come up.
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AlexMcMahon
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by AlexMcMahon »

Williams Model 9. Don’t even ask!

Bach 36 customized with a 42 tenon on the bell, Edwards 525/547 slide, Bach 36 slide with adjusted tenon, Edwards Rotary valve, Shires Bell threading (probably being converted to Edwards in the future). I also have a Custom Gb valve with middle finger activated linkage, like the 2nd valve of a bass made my Robb Phillips of Buckeye Brass in Columbus, Ohio. With all of the interchangeable parts it’s my most versatile instrument and wouldn’t bring anywhere near what I’ve invested in to it to consider selling.

Conn 88H-SGX-CL. I had one once before that was a graduation present from my grandparents and I stupidly traded off for two horns while in college (small bore jazz horn and the horn above in stock Bach 36 form). I was lucky to find someone in the past few years willing to accept some horns in trade. I’m glad I could get one in similar condition and honor the gift that I was given by my grandparents.
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Kingfan
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by Kingfan »

My teacher helped King test horns and used his pull to get me into the factory to pick out my new 4B-F. George McCracken, the designer, had pulled some slides and bells off the assembly lines for me to pick through and he helped me chose the best to put together for my horn. That was in 1972 or 73. That horn got me through high school, college including a year as a performance major, over a year touring with a 3rd rate big band, and every kind of playing since. I rarely have the opportunity to play large bore tenor these days, but as long as I can play trombone, I'm never selling it.
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Bach5G
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by Bach5G »

Sooner or later I will sell all (5) of mine. Or someone - wife, sons - will.
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harrisonreed
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by harrisonreed »

Meh. There's a price for anything. You think there isn't, but then that briefcase full of cash hits the table in front of you. You check it for counterfeits, for one dollar bill stacks hidden amidst the hundred dollar bills. No gps trackers either. Your lackeys nervously poke at the hidden weapons under their jackets, and they eye their counterparts across the dimly lit table. You reach for the briefcase handle...

Oh wait. Trombones? Nah, I'd sell any of mine for the right price.
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HawaiiTromboneGuy
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by HawaiiTromboneGuy »

Same boat. There’s some horns that I’ve sold that I wish I still had, but three horns come immediately to mind that I will not sell. Williams Model 4 that belonged to Billy Byers, Williams Model 10, & Conn 70H Fuchs.

Interesting tidbits- The Model 4 is gold plated, the Model 10 is all original besides the added King-style thumbring, & the Fuchs is a special order with a yellow brass bell.
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bimmerman
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by bimmerman »

My Bach LT16M and my Edwards .525/547 setup. Lots of other horns have come and gone but those are the only ones I have sentimental value for.

I have others that I'd need to be insulted with money to sell (Bach 9, LT8G, LT16M Sterling, 16 with F valve), but those two I wouldn't ever consider selling.
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

Never say never.
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Thrawn22
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by Thrawn22 »

Ill never part with my 6H. It was my first pro horn and its been like coming home everytime i play it.

The 78H i recently bought seems like a horn you'd have to pry that from my cold dead hand.

And last but not least, my modified 71H. Only thing id let that go for is the 72H i dumbly traded to DJ.
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Finetales
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by Finetales »

Yeah, I'd sell anything for the right chunk of change. They're just instruments, not people or memories that can't be replaced.

Do I love my modified 72H with independent valves? Yes, very much. But if someone came along and offered me $8k for it why on earth would I say no?
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SwissTbone
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by SwissTbone »

Hard to say...

I'd have a hard time parting with my custom Hagmann tenor and bass. But if somebody traded me a Holton 169 I may be tempted.
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FeelMyRath
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by FeelMyRath »

Never say never
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harrisonreed
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by harrisonreed »

[quote="FeelMyRath"]Never say never[/quote]

I want to post a particular "Why I play Edwards" YouTube video in response to this so bad...
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FeelMyRath
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by FeelMyRath »

[quote="harrisonreed"]<QUOTE author="FeelMyRath" post_id="104212" time="1581340140" user_id="3055">
Never say never[/quote]

I want to post a particular "Why I play Edwards" YouTube video in response to this so bad...
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[quote="Joe Alessi"]I will play it for the rest of my career[/quote] :lol:
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elmsandr
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by elmsandr »

If you ask my wife, every horn I come near is a horn I will never sell....

But really, I seem to be accumulating project horns that get about 80% there and never complete them. Always waiting for a part or inspiration or something.

That said, I don't think I could ever part with my NY Bach 45 with a 9.5" flare. That horn is so weird and just a blast to play, I think it would be the last horn standing even though it is rarely the first choice for most gigs.

Cheers,

Andy
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Bach42t
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by Bach42t »

My Yammy Black Phoenix... nooooo way I’d part with my little golden bird.
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Tarkus697
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by Tarkus697 »

1) The Bach 36BO my parents gave me as a gift in spring of '90 during my junior year of high school. It took me me through college jazz and wind ensembles and well beyond in assorted community bands and local symphony sub gigs. It's my favorite "do it all" horn, all I need to do is swap out the mouthpiece.

2) The Rath R2F I just picked up last fall won't be leaving anytime soon. This is a funk machine of the highest caliber. The Voght valve is so smooth and easy blowing and everything about this horn is just...right.
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Vegastokc
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by Vegastokc »

[quote="elmsandr"]If you ask my wife, every horn I come near is a horn I will never sell....
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Our wives might be related .... or at least facebook friends :lol:
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WGWTR180
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by WGWTR180 »

[quote="mrdeacon"]I have some regrets... Horns I've traded and sold in the past... But now I've got some horns I'll never part with!

Do you guys have any horns you'll never sell no matter how destitute you are?

Here are my two basses I'll never sell!

The top is a Holton 169 I just picked up from Chris Stearn. (Chris the 60h is almost done!) It has an early TR180 slide and indy Brasslab valves. F/bG tuning.

The bottom is a full custom Minick bass trombone I've posted about before! J bend tuning slide, 9 1/4" Gold Brass wide throat style bell, single-bore slide. The original valves were in rough shape and I had John Sandhagen replace them with Olsen rotors! Plays like a Bach 50B and a 62H had a baby.

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Granted... I might get the itch and trade the Minick one day for something equally cool but that Holton is never going away!

I'm excited to play these horns! And post about them :pant:[/quote]
I have played that 169. Enjoy!
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FullPedalTrombonist
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by FullPedalTrombonist »

Honestly I think it’s only for sentimental reasons. My BAC/Olds Super is still the best Super I’ve ever played and I went through several. But I have played horns that let me stretch my legs a little more. I’d rather buy another horn than have to sell or trade my Super, though.

I haven’t played a bass trombone I liked better all around than my mess of a Frankenbass, but I have played horns that I feel have a very similar holy grail feeling when playing, just in a different way. If there’s one that’s out there that fits better and can do it all better maybe, but I can’t imagine it happening for me.
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guywiththeblacktrombone
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by guywiththeblacktrombone »

[quote="Bach42t"]My Yammy Black Phoenix... nooooo way I’d part with my little golden bird.[/quote]

Me too!!!!!!
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Leanit
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by Leanit »

Everything is for sale. I've found it the best way to make money with a trombone. :-)
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JBone
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by JBone »

I can't see getting rid of my Olds Recording, unless it was to replace it with another Recording that I played and happened to like better. There's really nothing else I've tried that manages the same instantaneous, notes come out almost before you manage to think them, type of response, due to the fact that about 80% of the metal on the horn is nickel silver.

My modular horns... I could see myself making substitution and/or additions to them (I'd like a standard-weight slide for the bass, and a 7-series bell for the tenor), and like everyone with a DuoGravis I'd be interested in getting my hands on at least the bell section of a SilverSonic at some point, but as far as the Olds is concerned any changes, while perhaps making it more broadly applicable, would also reduce its unique strengths.

Also, probably the least expensive trombone I've ever purchased, which just makes me less likely to want to sell it.
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Leanit
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by Leanit »

Generally on the subject of clinging to precious horns ...

A dear friend of mine has an astonishing instrument collection, including a handful of truly special horns. As he got on in age, he realized that perhaps 4 trombones in his inventory could be life-changing tools for the right 4 players, and he can really only play 1 at a time. He then told me he'd decided to part with one I'd been drooling over. He reasoned that I was a good player, young enough to get a lot of use out of it, and that we shared the same regard for the horn. We worked out a trade that clearly was better for me than him, but it gave him great joy to pass that instrument on to a friend. Every time I assemble the horn, I think of him, his kindness, and his generous way of teaching and sharing music.

When the time comes, I'll do the same thing he did, for the right player coming along behind me.
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bobroden
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by bobroden »

Silver Bach 36b with lightweight slide, that I bought new at the factory in Elkhart in 1976. Best slide I've ever played, beautiful full sound. It's getting a bit heavy for me as I get older, but I still play it often. When it gets too heavy I switch over to my Edwards T302.
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harrisonreed
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by harrisonreed »

[quote="Leanit"]Generally on the subject of clinging to precious horns ...

A dear friend of mine has an astonishing instrument collection, including a handful of truly special horns. As he got on in age, he realized that perhaps 4 trombones in his inventory could be life-changing tools for the right 4 players, and he can really only play 1 at a time. He then told me he'd decided to part with one I'd been drooling over. He reasoned that I was a good player, young enough to get a lot of use out of it, and that we shared the same regard for the horn. We worked out a trade that clearly was better for me than him, but it gave him great joy to pass that instrument on to a friend. Every time I assemble the horn, I think of him, his kindness, and his generous way of teaching and sharing music.

When the time comes, I'll do the same thing he did, for the right player coming along behind me.[/quote]

What horn was it?
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mwpfoot
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by mwpfoot »

[quote="JBone"]I can't see getting rid of my Olds Recording, unless it was to replace it with another Recording that I played and happened to like better. There's really nothing else I've tried that manages the same instantaneous, notes come out almost before you manage to think them, type of response, due to the fact that about 80% of the metal on the horn is nickel silver.[/quote]

I feel the same about my Olds Recording in big band, and it keeps getting better as I play and play.

So never! ... unless I find the same, but more.

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Leanit
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by Leanit »

[quote="harrisonreed"]<QUOTE author="Leanit" post_id="104624" time="1581700511" user_id="3703">
Generally on the subject of clinging to precious horns ...

He then told me he'd decided to part with one I'd been drooling over.[/quote]

What horn was it?
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A 1930 Bach.
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Hawaiyan
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by Hawaiyan »

I usually never let go of any horns I get my hands on, but will let go most for a price, except my Kuhnl & Hoyer BS174 "Slokar Bass" trombone. Fell in love with it as soon as played it at the store. Did not let the store clerk have it back. It's no longer manufactured by K&H and not many out there, so to me, it's very valuable! ...Of course if something comes along that plays better...
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SwissTbone
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by SwissTbone »

[quote="Hawaiyan"]I usually never let go of any horns I get my hands on, but will let go most for a price, except my Kuhnl & Hoyer BS174 "Slokar Bass" trombone. Fell in love with it as soon as played it at the store. Did not let the store clerk have it back. It's no longer manufactured by K&H and not many out there, so to me, it's very valuable! ...Of course if something comes along that plays better...[/quote]

I understand. Those are great horns!
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Trav1s
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by Trav1s »

I won't say never but I have two keepers...

1969 Conn 79H with the Rotax conversion by Benn Hansson - I loved it before but the valve swap and related repairs were the icing on the cake. Love the light weight bell and heavy slide combo.

1972 Conn 80H - It is a 78H with an 8" red brass bell that was likely built early after production moved to Texas.

A Rath R3F with a Rotax could entice me to sell one or both of the above horns. 8" nickel bell, yellow side, and red brass tuning slide... oh so amazing.
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Largobone
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by Largobone »

I still have my first horn - a Holton 602 that was a hand-me-down from my cousin. Originally it was my home practice horn so I didn’t have to haul my rental Yamaha 354 back and forth. At the time I hated playing the Holton but since I’ve realized that it actually plays quite well. Unfortunately the bell was destroyed beyond repair a few years back and I had to replace the bell section, but the tuning slide and handslide is still all original and I might still have the remains of the original bell somewhere.

That’s about the only one I’d ever say with certainty that I would keep forever. At one point I owned a 1905 Boosey compensating euphonium that I wanted to keep forever, not because it was a player but because it was essentially the first modern euphonium and always a conversation piece when I brought it out in public. Unfortunately I had to sell it last year because I needed a better euphonium for school and the right opportunity came along to pass it on.
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Arrowhead
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by Arrowhead »

Olds Recording, L.A.

I also have a Fullerton.
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Fidbone
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by Fidbone »

My Mid-70's King 3B

It was the first horn I bought with my paper round money back in the 70's. I stupidly sold it to buy a Conn 8H to go to the Royal College of Music and study!

Luckily I had sold it to a friend who played it until I bought it back off him 2 years ago :-)
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Vegasbound
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by Vegasbound »

Times when the rent needed paying and the diary was blank, I have sold horns that I hated to part with but you got to do what you have to do
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sacfxdx
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by sacfxdx »

1961 3B Silversonic

My dad bought it from a friend when I was in junior high school. I wish I had appreciated it more at the time.
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dukesboneman
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by dukesboneman »

I have a number of horns in my collection but there are 4 that I will never get rid of.

1) Bach Lt12G with a Kanstul W6 leadpipe ( amazing lead/solo horn)

2) Mount Vernon Lt36 with Edwards #2 leadpipe (if I ever had to go down to one horn - this would be it)

3) `90`s Bach 42BO with Olsen Valve (by far THE Best large bore horn I`ve ever owned or played)

4) 1928 Conn Eb Tuba
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PSJ
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by PSJ »

I am 61 and have started thinking do I really need all these horns. Looking at what I actually play and how often I have needed a certain size makes me think. A couple I would rather not sell but I don't think there is any one of them that would not available. I was looking for a good bass trombone when I found the one I am playing now. Might be a better one out there........
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BillO
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by BillO »

I was convinced I would never sell my King 4B. It was my 2nd King 4B and I had it since new for 34 years or so. However, a bit over 2 years ago I bought an XO brass 1236 and the King never came out of the case again. I bought the King for $800 because it had been baking in the store window for some time and the lacquer had tuned pumpkin Orange, but King (UMI) fixed that under warranty. In any case, I was offered $1200 for it last September and: a) I felt it needed to be played and b) I needed a good portable digital piano, so ... the horn I thought I would never sell got sold.

Now, if I could only sell this boat-anchor Shires I have ...
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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

[quote="BillO"]Now, if I could only sell this boat-anchor Shires I have ...[/quote]

Bill,

As a favor to you, I'll take the Shires off your hands for $200 USD – and I'll pay the shipping to the U.S.! ;)
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slipmo
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by slipmo »

I'd never part with my 1938 Conn 66H

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BillO
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by BillO »

[quote="Posaunus"]<QUOTE author="BillO" post_id="112384" time="1588894430" user_id="131">
Now, if I could only sell this boat-anchor Shires I have ...[/quote]

Bill,

As a favor to you, I'll take the Shires off your hands for $200 USD – and I'll pay the shipping to the U.S.! ;)
</QUOTE>That's representative of the kind of offers I'm getting. It seems the folks around my neck of the woods don't differentiate between a Shires and a Bundy. Used be used.
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JohnL
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by JohnL »

[quote="BillO"]That's representative of the kind of offers I'm getting. It seems the folks around my neck of the woods don't differentiate between a Shires and a Bundy. Used be used.[/quote]
Maybe you should buy a boat and a good, stout chain.
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BillO
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by BillO »

[quote="JohnL"]Maybe you should buy a boat and a good, stout chain.[/quote]I need to sell the Shires to be able to afford the boat...
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Oslide
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by Oslide »

[quote="slipmo"]I'd never part with my 1938 Conn 66H[/quote]

That must be an exceptional horn! C'mon, give us a bit more... :o
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patrickosmith
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by patrickosmith »

Never say never ... except for ... Frank Crisafulli's Holton 168 !

I will never "sell" that. But upon my death I was considering to gift it to the CSO for use by the 2nd trombonist.
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imsevimse
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by imsevimse »

I sold a King 3B Bb/F in 1984 when I started at the accademy because I had no use, and then I sold another King 3B and a Conn 8h around 2003 after I got out of work. I've had a good steady job now the last 12 years. In 2013 I became a collector. Many have asked me if I have got any for sale, but no. No trombone is for sale because I find joy in every one of them. If I start to sell it is probably because I think I'm becoming to old or to sick to play them, that's when they have to go.

I guess my Bach 36BO is the one I bring on most classical gigs and the Yamaha 891Z is my most played horn for jazz. My most used bass might be the Kanstul 1662. I guess those three will be the ones I miss the most when they are gone.

/Tom
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slipmo
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by slipmo »

[quote="Oslide"]<QUOTE author="slipmo" post_id="112419" time="1588917440" user_id="3065">
I'd never part with my 1938 Conn 66H[/quote]

That must be an exceptional horn! C'mon, give us a bit more... :o
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Here's a blurb about it:

The Conn 66H is an interesting trombone. The 66H was produced from 1920 and discontinued in 1925. The specifications are .547” bore medium bass with rotary valve to F, tuning in the bell. My instrument was built in 1938-1940 and is marked 66H Spec on both the bell and slide section. The entire instrument is built from either red brass or gold brass and you will see the variations in material in the photo. The instrument is nearly identical to the Conn 88H in every way. The tuning slide, hand slide and bell taper is the same as my later examples of 88Hs (and are even interchangeable), leading me to believe that this instrument is perhaps one of the earliest examples of what would become the modern 88H. As the 88H was not produced officially until 1954, perhaps the 66H was the closest thing to these specifications in the Conn archives and this instrument was stamped as such. I also have a 14H in my collection, which is the same as a 66H but with TIS.
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Backbone
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by Backbone »

[quote="mrdeacon"]I have some regrets... Horns I've traded and sold in the past... But now I've got some horns I'll never part with!

Do you guys have any horns you'll never sell no matter how destitute you are?

Here are my two basses I'll never sell!

The top is a Holton 169 I just picked up from Chris Stearn. (Chris the 60h is almost done!) It has an early TR180 slide and indy Brasslab valves. F/bG tuning.

The bottom is a full custom Minick bass trombone I've posted about before! J bend tuning slide, 9 1/4" Gold Brass wide throat style bell, single-bore slide. The original valves were in rough shape and I had John Sandhagen replace them with Olsen rotors! Plays like a Bach 50B and a 62H had a baby.

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Granted... I might get the itch and trade the Minick one day for something equally cool but that Holton is never going away!

I'm excited to play these horns! And post about them :pant:[/quote]

On that Indy-169, what main tuning slide and neck pipe out of the Gb valve was used?
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HawaiiTromboneGuy
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by HawaiiTromboneGuy »

I was finally able to complete my set of Burbank Williams trombones the other week by purchasing the Model 7. I was always close, but was always missing one at any given time to complete the set.
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mrdeacon
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by mrdeacon »

[quote="Backbone"]On that Indy-169, what main tuning slide and neck pipe out of the Gb valve was used?[/quote]
The horn uses the original 169 tuning slide and the valve section is from a Brasslab commissioned Bach 50B valve set. I assume the neckpipe bit is a hand drawn Chuck piece. Whatever it is it plays well!

Regretablly the only "original" parts to the horn are the 169 tuning slide and 169 bell (which is actually a true 9 1/2"' bell!). The original horn was pretty trashed so the Brasslab valve section was grafted on and the handslide is from a very early TR180.

I've been told the original horn also has provenance from one of my all time favorite bass trombone players!!! Even if the provenance is incorrect I'm still estactic to own this horn. The provenance is just the cherry on top!
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harrisonreed
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by harrisonreed »

My Eastlake 88HT-CL apparently. I want to. Just never seem to do it.
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Backbone
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by Backbone »

[quote="mrdeacon"]<QUOTE author="Backbone" post_id="122949" time="1597629458" user_id="3014">
On that Indy-169, what main tuning slide and neck pipe out of the Gb valve was used?[/quote]
The horn uses the original 169 tuning slide and the valve section is from a Brasslab commissioned Bach 50B valve set. I assume the neckpipe bit is a hand drawn Chuck piece. Whatever it is it plays well!

Regretablly the only "original" parts to the horn are the 169 tuning slide and 169 bell (which is actually a true 9 1/2"' bell!). The original horn was pretty trashed so the Brasslab valve section was grafted on and the handslide is from a very early TR180.

I've been told the original horn also has provenance from one of my all time favorite bass trombone players!!! Even if the provenance is incorrect I'm still estactic to own this horn. The provenance is just the cherry on top!
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Thanks for the information. I am rolling around the idea to modify my 181 with another tuning slide while changing the 'zig-zagged' neck pipe to a straight one. Just imagine the normal 181 wrap but without the dip inward coming out of the Gb valve.
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noordinaryjoe
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by noordinaryjoe »

A Prayer:

"Lord, when I die please don't let my wife sell my trombones for what I *told* her I paid for them."

(not actually my situation, but this makes me chuckle)
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EOlson9
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by EOlson9 »

Can't see myself selling my 62H with a Butler carbon slide. Also have a King 2125f I got from greenbean about a year and a half ago that is absolutely amazing sounding horn. Eventually gonna put an Olsen rotor and a bit of more open wrap on it.
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OldWetOneCanoli
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by OldWetOneCanoli »

My 88H. My parents bought me this horn in H.S. It has sentimental value that I could not put a price on, and would never be realized in a sale.
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Fruitysloth
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by Fruitysloth »

A very close friend and near mentor of mine in college was our 2nd trumpet player in the top jazz band. He taught me about playing with attitude and owning what you knew how to play, and was so charismatic on stage. Throughout our years, I made it into the top jazz band, and later joined a funk group he was a part of. This summer, he and his wife moved to Oregon, and he had lent me his Edwards trumpet that he had as a backup. He mentioned wanting to screw around on a sousaphone, and I had purchased an old plexiglass one a few months before, and I jokingly said, "you wanna trade that Edwards for my sousa" and he got this crazy look in his eye. He said he had to make some money off the horn, otherwise his wife would kill him, so he asked for $500 and the sousa, to which I quickly agreed. It's an amazing trumpet, and several pros in the area have tried to purchase it from me, and I've always politely declined, but have offered to let them use it for a gig in the area if they'd like. It's more of the memories of that close friend that make me keep the horn, and I'm going to do everything in my power to keep it, until someone comes along who I know would embody the same things my friend embodies in his music. I'll post a pic here sometime soon!
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modelerdc
Posts: 352
Joined: May 03, 2018

by modelerdc »

I have a Shires vintage Elkhart with hand engraved bell which for me is just perfect. I like the X tuning slide and oddly a King 4G mouthpiece. My favorite bass is a Shires Q with rotors, yellow bell and a custom C tuning slide. The only horn I used to have and regret selling is a Conn Greenhoe 62H, if I ever come by another I won’t let it go!
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HermanGerman
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Joined: Oct 29, 2021

by HermanGerman »

The last horn I bought...until I buy a new one.
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Pezza
Posts: 221
Joined: Aug 24, 2021

by Pezza »

My grandfathers old Buescher Truetone. Too small for me, & doesn't really blend with modern horns, but it'll never go.

Also my King 5B. Due to medical reasons it's the only trom that works for me on bass. Unless I can somehow get my hands on a Bach 45!
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CarlVicVogel
Posts: 61
Joined: Jan 11, 2022

by CarlVicVogel »

My silver plate Bach 42BO (early production) is one I would never sell. it's easy to play and has a rather bright sound for a 42. It just fits me and my personality.

However, it's slightly newer brother, a Bach 42BO in lacquer will probably be sold some day. It's plays very open with a huge sound! But, at my age and and the venues I play in, it can become overkill. A perfect Mahler horn that received excellent reviews from my son's music conservatory professor. I swear it plays as open as my bass trombone!
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Cotboneman
Posts: 210
Joined: Jul 27, 2018

by Cotboneman »

The horn that I am certain I will never sell is my Getzen 1062FD dependent bass, purchased way back in 1998. It was my principal horn for almost 22 years, until I retired it to backup status, replacing it with my Bach 50AF3. My Getzen was becoming someone long in the tooth, with noisy linkages, acid bleed under the lacquer in some spots, no lacquer in other places, a stress cracked main tuning slide, and chrome plating wear on the main slide near the stockings. Not to mention 20 plus years of mute dings. But the horn had such great focused tone, as well as terrific response that I opted to save it rather than sell it. I had Jim Huwe at Ward-Brodt music in Wisconsin correct all of the problems, then strip the finish and re-finish in brushed satin. It came out beautifully. It has become my permanent backup. It's at home on pops concerts for sure, or when the other players in the orchestra section are not playing their Bach large bores.
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Sander
Posts: 37
Joined: Sep 06, 2021

by Sander »

So, I've been able to buy a 48H Connstellation around 2 years ago.

Battered slide, with wear on the inners. But plays a dream, super smooth and super clear sound.

Even the 48H I've bought in showroom state a year after didn't play as well and I've parted with that already again.

Also my Rath R2 with redbrass bell is staying to never leave. (unless a ridiculous offer comes by)

Next to that my beater sousaphone, a Conn 36k, worn and repaired with some boat grade fiberglass. Nobody will ever pay for that thing what I've put in or had joy of, so that's staying as well.

The rest, I can't imagine cramping to hold on to for the rest of my life tbh
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jsimmon
Posts: 3
Joined: Sep 03, 2020

by jsimmon »

I have a 1932 Conn 44H all original - mouthpiece - case - even has orig. cleaning rod and lyre - fantastic art deco engraving with the satyr - it has really modern features for its day - like bell and slide locks - in bell tuning and full rounded crooks - it's really heavy but that being said it plays really well - I'll have to pass that one on to someone who cares !
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haoscv
Posts: 10
Joined: Jan 04, 2023

by haoscv »

Probably my sousaphone and euphonium!

Got such a killer deal that will never come up again.

On the fence about my YBL-822G, need to play in an ensemble with it to figure out if I like it or not.
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Macbone1
Posts: 501
Joined: Oct 01, 2019

by Macbone1 »

I'm open minded on all of them (money talks!) but it would be hard to part with my King Jiggs Whigham 2B. So well made and such fun to play. Jiggs really got King to make something special.

Another related and interesting thread could be horns that just WON'T sell even though they are in excellent condition and play well. I could add to THAT discussion.
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MBone1968
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Joined: Jan 11, 2023

by MBone1968 »

AWESOME !!! I thought I was only one with a 20H with a 2B Slide Crook put on it! The 20H is a real steal for the money if you can find one.
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GACMoose
Posts: 16
Joined: May 04, 2022

by GACMoose »

My 1967 stock 48H with light weight slide. My parents purchased it as my "step-up" horn around 1970 (it was still on the shelf). It plays and projects so freely and easily. I love the sound of it and how it fits in my hand - of course, I've had it for over 50 years - so I've probably changed to match the horn! Then there's lways the sentimental value. It's been through so many wonderful times (and some not so wonderful) and I've had it for over 50 years. Not sure of the real value, but it's in great condition.

My 1919-ish York "Monster Eb" tuba. This one's all sentimental. I received it from my grandfather in the mid-70s. He played in an "old-time band" for years. When he was going to give it to me, my grandmother told him "Just throw it out, Mark doesn't want that old thing." I got the many dents taken out and the tuning slides unstuck (my grandfather never used them - my father once told him, "Dad, I think that's supposed to be B-natural, not B-flat". Grandpa's response was, "B-flat, B-natural, doesn't matter.") I played that horn in a polka band in high school and then here and thereafter. I don't really have an opportunity to play it anymore, but I still tootle around on it. I keep it polished (it's silver) and in decent playing condition. This one probably has no value except to me.
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NotSkilledHere
Posts: 190
Joined: Aug 07, 2024

by NotSkilledHere »

I really dont want to let go of any of my horns because i do enjoy them but if the price is unreasonably high enough id be persuaded to let them go if I actually needed the money. I'm not someone who sells their things just because someone gives a high price. I let them go on my own terms unless when I absolutely must for financial reasons.

That being said, the last horn to go will be my Yamaha 882GO. I understand it may not be the best trombone in the world. However, no matter what horns I obtain in the future or let go of, this horn will be the final piece I have left if everything must go. It was a gift from my parents in my freshman year of high school. That makes it priceless to me.

It doesn't matter how much better or unique or rare or expensive or special any other horn is, or any reason, I will hold onto that 882 until the very last moment.
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harrisonreed
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Joined: Aug 17, 2018

by harrisonreed »

[quote="harrisonreed"]My Eastlake 88HT-CL apparently. I want to. Just never seem to do it.[/quote]

Yeah, never say never -- it's gone lol
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claf
Posts: 148
Joined: Oct 22, 2018

by claf »

I'll (probably) never sell my Gaudet bass, it has serial number #008 and I picked it at the factory.