John Packer JP138 Bb/C

multiphonic · by **multiphonic** » 2020-03-30 2:42 p.m.

Hi,

For a variety of reasons, my favorite trombone of all-time is the Yamaha YSL-350C Bb/C. I mistakenly sold the one I had, so I'm in the market for a new/used one, but wanted to see if anyone had any direct experience with the JP138Bb/C. It's also dual bore. I'm interested in perspectives re: build quality, intonation etc. vs. the Yamaha.

<LINK_TEXT text="https://www.jpmusicalinstruments.com/pr ... cker-jp138">https://www.jpmusicalinstruments.com/prod/john-packer-jp138</LINK_TEXT>

Thanks!

multiphonic

(new to Trombone Chat; former TTF member)

Neo_Bri · by **Neo_Bri** » 2020-03-30 6:20 p.m.

Welcome, multiphonic! Good to see you.

I always thought that was a neat design.

multiphonic · by **multiphonic** » 2020-03-30 6:52 p.m.

Thanks for the welcome, Neo Bri!

brtnats · by **brtnats** » 2020-03-31 9:01 a.m.

I’ve never played one, but I’d LOVE to hear what you have to say. I’ve been eyeballing them for years.

multiphonic · by **multiphonic** » 2020-03-31 9:36 a.m.

Thomann also sells one:

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although I don't know the source(s) of their in-house brand instruments. I have a Thomann Eb calvary (natural) trumpet that's quite nice.

Schiller (Jin Bao?) sells a Bb/C as well.

Just an FYI.

I'm leaning toward a Yamaha unless I can find good reviews of the Packer.

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2020-03-31 11:20 a.m.

I would imagine that the Packer, Thomann, and Schiller all come from the same Chinese factory. If it's as good of a clone as the Slokar alto, it might be worth the gamble. But I don't think anyone here owns one...or at least, nobody has admitted to it!

Mikebmiller · by **Mikebmiller** » 2020-04-01 1:37 p.m.

How exactly does the valve work on that horn? How does one play a low E or B?

multiphonic · by **multiphonic** » 2020-04-01 1:41 p.m.

[quote="Mikebmiller"]How exactly does the valve work on that horn? How does one play a low E or B?[/quote]

The valve is ascending, so trigger activation 'removes' the extra section of tubing. Second position plus trigger for low B. No low E.

I'm embarrassed to admit that I don't recall whether or not my Yamaha had an actual 6th position for low F. :frown:

noordinaryjoe · by **noordinaryjoe** » 2020-07-16 11:27 a.m.

I'd love a 'travel' horn that fits in the overhead bin. (when we start traveling again)

Doug Yeo speaks well of the Yamaha YSL-350c, but it's pricey and hard to find stateside. (3/4 down on this page)

http://www.yeodoug.com/articles/trombon ... llery.html

Anyone have experience with either of these Schillers?

https://www.jimlaabsmusicstore.com/stor ... rass-bell/

https://www.jimlaabsmusicstore.com/stor ... -trombone/

Thanks!

-Joe

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