Show me your stable

Amconk · by **Amconk** » 2020-05-02 3:58 p.m.

Here’s my lineup:

Shires Large Tenor, standard rotor, German brass seamed tuning slide, SS1 bell, TW47 slide. MK42 nickel silver leadpipe.

JinBao bass 7B clone. Nickel silver. Plan to pull the leadpipe and try a press fit George Roberts in the future.

JinBao alto. Slokar clone. Nickel silver. Would like to upgrade the stock leadpipe in this one too!

What are you guys playing these days?
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Kingfan · by **Kingfan** » 2020-05-02 6:06 p.m.

King 2B, King 3B, King 3B-F, King 4B-F, King 7B.
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Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2020-05-02 8:31 p.m.

The whole posse!

JohnL · by **JohnL** » 2020-05-02 9:31 p.m.

I'd have to clean the place up first. Most of 'em are on the website.

http://www.itsabear.com

And for those of you unfamiliar with my site, yes, I do own each and every one of those trombones. Plus some others. Scary, isn't it?

harrisonreed · by **harrisonreed** » 2020-05-02 10:21 p.m.

I'm playing a King 3BF Silversonic from the 70s on nearly everything. I kind of want to try it with a new slide, but I'm not sure how different the modern slides are from the one I've got.

If it's not music that normal people gravitate towards, I play my Edwards T396A. Large ensemble or "legit" stuff.

My favorite horn to play is my Conn 36H.

That's all I've got. I have an 88H but I don't play it.

Hobart · by **Hobart** » 2020-05-02 10:41 p.m.

I'm gonna start at at the bottom left and work backwards.

Conn Director 18H with a Coprion bell, from the late Elkhart period.

Conn Connquest 77H, which has one of the nicest slides I have, despite being from Abeline in 1975.

Elkhorn by Getzen valve trombone, a steal for $100 from my school.

Holton TR-181, which is owned by my school.

Yamaha Advantage YSL-200 trombone, a good student horn but I don't use it.

A semi-functional H.N. White King from 1926, the slides pretty bad but it has a good tone.

The bell from a King 3BF, which I got for free (because it was destined for the trash) and need to find a slide for.

A Reynolds Emperor Bell-Front baritone, it doesn't look pretty but it functions well

An "American Diplomat" trumpet, it leaks so I bent the bell up because it's worth like twenty bucks.

A King F single horn with a damaged leadpipe, which I also got for free. The valve block's in good shape.

Finally, in the back, is my Yamaha Allegro YSL-548GO, which is the nicest horn I have. My grandfather bought it a few years ago for me, and I like it better than most of the Bach 42 variants I tried at Midwest Clinic.

My mother is slightly concerned for my mental health, but I want this to grow.

HawaiiTromboneGuy · by **HawaiiTromboneGuy** » 2020-05-02 11:07 p.m.

Recently acquired two more horns not pictured. The Rath contra and Selmer Triple Threat do not belong to me.

Thrawn22 · by **Thrawn22** » 2020-05-02 11:29 p.m.

I dont have enough stands :(

harrisonreed · by **harrisonreed** » 2020-05-02 11:36 p.m.

My opinion only, but I think more than one of each category of trombone is counterproductive. If you're a collector, that's cool and I understand that, but how can you guys possibly play all those trombones?

Most of my favorite brass heros have played on only a few instruments throughout their careers. I'm sure they have pretty big collections, but then again, maybe they don't.

JLivi · by **JLivi** » 2020-05-02 11:54 p.m.

This is my setup for teaching and messing around with my 20 month old daughter. 6 horns not shown :-)

mrdeacon · by **mrdeacon** » 2020-05-03 12:12 a.m.

[quote="harrisonreed"]My opinion only, but I think more than one of each category of trombone is counterproductive. If you're a collector, that's cool and I understand that, but how can you guys possibly play all those trombones?

Most of my favorite brass heros have played on only a few instruments throughout their careers. I'm sure they have pretty big collections, but then again, maybe they don't.[/quote]
I mean the short answer is you don't.

But... Sometimes you wake up and just want orange juice instead of apple juice, you know?

My Bach 42 is a little sassier and lighter than my 42B which is a tank. My Minick is more of a Mustang vs my Holton 169 which is more of a sports car. It's just nice to have something different. I usually alternate every couple of days or will stick with one for a few weeks if I'm in a a particular mood.

That said... I'm in the boat of if you have more than two horns of a single category that's where it gets excessive and into collecting territory. I'm not sure what I'd ever do with three large tenors or three bass trombones.

I'll most my own horn porn tomorrow :pant:

Amconk · by **Amconk** » 2020-05-03 12:20 a.m.

[quote="Kingfan"]King 2B, King 3B, King 3B-F, King 4B-F, King 7B.

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Need a 5B and a Duo Gravis now!

Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2020-05-03 12:23 a.m.

[quote="harrisonreed"]My opinion only, but I think more than one of each category of trombone is counterproductive. If you're a collector, that's cool and I understand that, but how can you guys possibly play all those trombones?

Most of my favorite brass heros have played on only a few instruments throughout their careers. I'm sure they have pretty big collections, but then again, maybe they don't.[/quote]

Yup, I find it best to have one of everything. I will have two basses because they will do very different things well. At some point I may get a Bach 12 or 16 because that does something completely different than a 3B. Remember, same size doesn't mean the same thing on the other side of the bell.

BGuttman · by **BGuttman** » 2020-05-03 1:10 a.m.

[quote="harrisonreed"]My opinion only, but I think more than one of each category of trombone is counterproductive. If you're a collector, that's cool and I understand that, but how can you guys possibly play all those trombones?

Most of my favorite brass heros have played on only a few instruments throughout their careers. I'm sure they have pretty big collections, but then again, maybe they don't.[/quote]

Sometimes you need a backup. What do you do if you need to play small tenor and your small tenor is in the shop? Maybe use the large tenor, but maybe it won't do.

Sometimes horns within categories will have subtle difference and one may be better for one job than another. I had a Martin Imperial and a Martin Committee. Both pretty close in bore size. But the Imperial had a tone quality much better for the Dixieland I was playing at the time and the Committee sounded more like a Big Band horn (and I already had another good Big Band horn -- a Holton Stratodyne). So I sold on the Committee.

Right now I have a pile of cheap horns because I want to see just how bad the Chinese TSO's are. And some of them are really bad! :eek:

Elow · by **Elow** » 2020-05-03 1:29 a.m.

[quote="JohnL"]I'd have to clean the place up first. Most of 'em are on the website.

http://www.itsabear.com

And for those of you unfamiliar with my site, yes, I do own each and every one of those trombones. Plus some others. Scary, isn't it?[/quote]

I’ve heard that some olds collectors were crazy, but this is a different level. At least you have a williams

bimmerman · by **bimmerman** » 2020-05-03 1:40 a.m.

...too many.

L-R, in shrinking bore order:

.547 Edwards; .525/547 Edwards (unsold bits); Bach 16M Sterling Plus (big gooseneck); Bach 16M (std gooseneck); Bach 16 "B" Frankenhorn (NY16 slide, 36B valve, Corp 16 bell); Williams 6 in need of resto; Bach MtV 9 with 6vii bell; Bach LT8G; HN White King 2B SilverSonic. Also a loaner guitar and bass from a friend; wanted to learn something new.

Why so many Bachs? I like them, and also all the parts interchange. I've been playing the "16B" the most lately. I really need to downsize at some point, especially considering I can't improvise beyond a basic high school level.

JohnL · by **JohnL** » 2020-05-03 2:34 a.m.

[quote="Elow"]I’ve heard that some olds collectors were crazy, but this is a different level. At least you have a williams[/quote]
It's long past a collection; it's more of a private, online museum.

Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2020-05-03 2:42 a.m.

[quote="JohnL"]<QUOTE author="Elow" post_id="111917" time="1588483761" user_id="8680">I’ve heard that some olds collectors were crazy, but this is a different level. At least you have a williams[/quote]
It's long past a collection; it's more of a private, online museum.
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And sometime public, like at ITF! That was a really great little room you had.

u_8parktoollover · by **u_8parktoollover** » 2020-05-03 2:48 a.m.

bach lt42bog

king 606

pbone 1o

sirisobhakya · by **sirisobhakya** » 2020-05-03 4:18 a.m.

From front to back, left to right:

Yamaha YBL-612

Yamaha YSL-882UII

Yamaha YBL-830

The first 2 horns were donated to my former school's band, where I still usually go to instruct current students. The YBL-830 is my current main horn, and the only horn I have now in this semi-lockdown situation.

I also have Wessex rotary tenorhorn, Thomann 4-valves rotary bass trumpet, and Thomann rotary flugelhorn. The temorhorn and flugelhorn are at the school which is still closed, and the bass trumpet is at a tech awaiting conversion from C to Bb.

EdwardSolomon · by **EdwardSolomon** » 2020-05-03 6:36 a.m.

Small bore trombones

Olds Standard tenor and B&H Imperial G/D bass trombones

Olds Standard B♭ tenor trombone

I use this instrument for French third trombone parts when the section scales down to small bore instruments. It has a dual bore (0.485″/0.500″) slide with in-slide tuning and a 7″ bell. I usually use a Vincent Bach (New York) 6 mouthpiece or a Denis Wick 4BS mouthpiece with this trombone.

Boosey & Hawkes “Imperial” G/D bass trombone

This is one of the last G/D bass trombones ever made, dating from 1978. This is an example of the large bore (0.5265″) orchestral model. The instrument still has its original G/D bass trombone mouthpiece, handle and case, though my preference is to use a Denis Wick SM2M mouthpiece, which is a little deeper and helps to make a rounder sound that doesn’t tend towards tearing canvas in loud dynamics.

Besson “Prototype” G bass trombone

This trombone belonged formerly to Royal Marines Band No. 7. It still possesses its original handle, mouthpiece and case and has been dated to approximately 1948. The bore of this instrument is 0.487″.

Established by Gustave August Besson in Paris 1837, Besson & Co. established a London branch by 1850 and was fined for patent problems with Adolphe Sax during the mid 1800s. After the death of the founder in 1874, his widow took over the business (in 1874), followed later by his daughter, Marthe. The company was taken over by Boosey & Hawkes in 1948.

Large bore trombones

Elkhart Conn 88H, 70H, and 62H trombones

Conn 88H B♭/F trombone

I use this instrument for French third trombone parts and sometimes as a light bass trombone when playing with an alto trombone in Classical and early Romantic works. I usually use a Shires Vintage 3G, 5G or 5GS mouthpiece with this trombone.

Conn 70H B♭/F bass trombone

This model dates from 1942 and features tuning in the slide and was manufactured from 1937 to 1955. The Conn factory stopped the manufacture of musical instruments in August 1942, so this is quite a find. It has a 9½” bell and a rather narrower taper, which lend it a somewhat lighter feel compared with modern bass trombones. It is a joy to play and is very suitable for most orchestral bass trombone playing. Played with either the original Connstellation Remington mouthpiece or a Mount Vernon Bach 2G mouthpiece.

Conn 62H B♭/F/D bass trombone

This famous model dates from 1970, features tuning in the slide and was manufactured from 1968 to 1972. It has a 9½” bell, a somewhat lighter feel compared with modern bass trombones, and produces a classic bass trombone sound. The valves were reconfigured by Larry Minick to produce an open wrap F tube, second valve D slide, and independent levers. It is a joy to play and is my main instrument. Played with a Mount Vernon Bach 2G mouthpiece.

Thein F/D/B♭/A♭ contrabass trombone

This contrabass trombone has a slide bore of 0.567″ and a bell diameter of 10.63″. The mouthpiece is a Thein contrabass trombone model designed by Joachim Mittelacher – the Thein MCH (Mittelacher Contrabass Heavy) model.

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German E♭ alto, B♭ tenor, and B♭/F tenorbass trombones

German E♭ alto, B♭ tenor, and F bass trombones

Arno Windisch (Dresden) alto trombone in E♭

This instrument has a 7″ bell and dates from approximately 1954. It is typical of older German trombones in having a friction joint instead of a ferrule to attach the bell to the slide, no slide lock, an unsoldered slide stay and a bell garland.

Born on 27 February 1921 in Klingenthal, Saxony, in 1954 Arno Windisch took over the workshop of Friedrich Alwin Heckel (founded 1836), the former instrument workshop to the royal court of Saxony. On 1 January 1992 the workshop was shut down.

Robert Piering (Adorf) B♭ trombone, Robert Piering (Adorf) B♭/F trombone

The straight B♭tenor trombone was probably made by Robert Piering of Adorf in Saxony in the late 1920s/early 1930s. It has a slide bore of 0.500″, a 9″ bell, and traditional German snake ornamentation. There is no tuning slide.

This tenorbass trombone in B♭/F was made by Robert Piering of Adorf in Saxony in the late 1920s/early 1930s and I use it as a small bass trombone when playing Viennese Classical works by Mozart, Haydn, Beethoven, Schubert, etc. It has a slide bore of 0.525″, a 9″ bell, and traditional German snake ornamentation. It is fitted with a tuning slide and has a thong-operated thumb valve with drum spring for the F attachment. The whole instrument is fashioned out of gold brass and has a very warm sound, typical of instruments of this kind from Saxony.

The Robert Piering workshop was established in 1882 and lasted until the mid-20th century, producing every size of trombone from alto to contrabass. Instruments from the Piering workshop, like those from that of Kruspe in Erfurt, were and are highly sought after and represent the zenith of traditional German trombone manufacture.

Sächsische Musikinstrumenten Fabriken VEB (Klingenthal) bass trombone in F

This is a typical example of the old German military band bass trombone with a coil in the bell section and has a bore size of approximately 0.512″, 10″ bell, as well as the original case and mouthpiece. It is very traditional and has no tuning slide, no slide lock, no water key (though I did have a Saturn water key added to make life a little easier), an unsoldered slide stay and a friction joint to attach the bell to the slide.

This trombone is, unusually, a post-war instrument from the German Democratic Republic. The Sächsische Musikinstrumenten Fabriken VEB were founded in 1946 and closed down in 1972. It is a real rarity owing to the fact that most German manufacturers ceased making F bass trombones before World War II.

I use a Shires Vintage 2G mouthpiece with this instrument, which helps to avoid cracked notes in the low register (an unfortunate consequence when using the original mouthpiece that is really quite small and shallow) and easier and more stable access to the upper register.

Schuster & Co. (Markneukirchen) tenor trombone in B♭

Schuster & Co. operated from 1881 to 1943, founded by Arnold W. Ludwig through the purchase of Paulus & Schuster and was a manufacturer of musical instruments by royal appointment to the court of Saxony.

This tenor trombone has bore size of 0.547″, a 10″ bell and possesses an interesting in-slide tuning mechanism as well as very fine Schlangenverzierungen (snake ornamentations), which protect the bell and slide bows. It also has the traditional German Cölner model mouthpiece.

imsevimse · by **imsevimse** » 2020-05-03 7:24 a.m.

[quote="JohnL"]I'd have to clean the place up first. Most of 'em are on the website.

http://www.itsabear.com

And for those of you unfamiliar with my site, yes, I do own each and every one of those trombones. Plus some others. Scary, isn't it?[/quote]

It's an inspiring read <EMOJI seq="1f44d" tseq="1f44d">👍</EMOJI><EMOJI seq="1f920" tseq="1f920">🤠</EMOJI>

/Tom

whitbey · by **whitbey** » 2020-05-03 8:36 a.m.

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My profile has my horns with a description.

hyperbolica · 2020-05-03 10:46 a.m.

Here is my family photo. From left to right

- Kanstul 1662i

- Olds/King small bass

- Conn Elkhart 88h

- Conn 79h

- 8h frankenbone (Conn/Bach/Blessing)

- Olds Recording

- Conn 32h

- in the front row is my Wessex Festivo euphonium

- 78h (not shown)

...and I have a 78h on the way (yes, I have a thing for medium bore trombones). I'm a bit of a vintage Conn fan, but I do realize there are other nice horns out there.

My daily player is really the 79h.

The 32h and the Olds/King bass are for sale.

I've had the 88h for 45 years.

I bought the Festivo due to a pinched nerve that I imagine some day is going to end my tbone playing days.

The Kanstul is the horn I usually play in quartet, and may be the thing exacerbating the pinched nerve the most.

The Recording is still new to me, but I'm really loving the sound.

The 8h frankenbone is on the verge of being a super wonderful horn, but there is something holding it back. Maybe the 36b bell is too heavy.

And then there are the horns I sold that I wish I had kept:

- Shires MD+

- Yamaha 891z

- Courtois 402

- Conn 79h silver plated, pristine

- Bach 50b3

- Olds P24g

RJMason · by **RJMason** » 2020-05-03 12:41 p.m.

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Selmer Bolero

Lawler Model 1

Bach LT36BG

Bach NY 16, NY 12 slide

Bach NY Model 30

Martin Urbie Green

Williams model 7

Conn 6H

Missenharter Ballad Horn

Olds Compact Marching Valve trombone

Bach 37 Trumpet

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Now I’m down to:

Bach LT36BG

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Conn 88H

2 Olds Compact Marching Valve trombones

Ballad Horn

Bach 36 trumpet

Selmer Bolero

Williams Model 7

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bigbandbone · by **bigbandbone** » 2020-05-03 1:30 p.m.

I don't have a stable, just 3 workhorse axes. My main horn is a 1963 72H bass. It travels with me between Florida and Ohio. Down in Florida I have a modified 1955 Conn 20H Conquest for when I just have to play a higher part. In Ohio I have 1952 King 2B for the same reason. I will be short sliding the 2B this summer. And that's it for me!

SwissTbone · by **SwissTbone** » 2020-05-03 2:04 p.m.

[quote="RJMason"]

Missenharter Ballad Horn
[/quote]

Never heard about Missenharter. Tell us more.

JohnL · by **JohnL** » 2020-05-03 2:36 p.m.

[quote="cozzagiorgi"]<QUOTE author="RJMason" post_id="111961" time="1588524119" user_id="3369">

Missenharter Ballad Horn
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Never heard about Missenharter. Tell us more.</QUOTE>
http://missenharter.com/Index.html

Looks like a site maintained by a family member. Pretty good stuff.

SwissTbone · by **SwissTbone** » 2020-05-03 2:40 p.m.

[quote="JohnL"]<QUOTE author="cozzagiorgi" post_id="111966" time="1588529079" user_id="62">

Never heard about Missenharter. Tell us more.[/quote]
http://missenharter.com/Index.html

Looks like a site maintained by a family member. Pretty good stuff.
</QUOTE>

Thanks!

biggiesmalls · by **biggiesmalls** » 2020-05-03 2:54 p.m.

My personal favorites (Elkhart 88H, 8H, 79H, 6H, and 24H) are NFS, but the majority of my stable is for sale/trade and therefore ever-changing. A few recent images of my studio:

mrdeacon · by **mrdeacon** » 2020-05-03 3:05 p.m.

[quote="biggiesmalls"]My personal favorites (Elkhart 88H, 8H, 79H, 6H, and 24H) are NFS, but the majority of my stable is for sale/trade and therefore ever-changing. A few recent images of my studio:[/quote]
I hope you don't live somewhere with earthquakes :pant:

MStarke · by **MStarke** » 2020-05-03 4:25 p.m.

Pictures may follow later...

Voigt alto:

Smaller alto, took quite long for me to get used to it as I used to play bass/contra primarily.

Weril alto - tuning in slide:

Easy to play, nice sound, intonation is a bit tricky.

Selmer Bolero:

My first small tenor. I like it for its response and "smoothness".

Blessing medium bore:

Easy to play, fun. I am not yet settled on the "perfect" mouthpiece - also because I can't decide if it is more a "larger small bore" or a "smaller large bore" which somehow would influence mouthpiece choice.

Blessing large bore:

This is more or less an 8H copy. Red bell, easy response and intonation, I really like the sound.

Replica of Piering German tenor:

No tuning slide, therefor a bit tricky to play. Really bad balance, but still fun. I have not yet had the opportunity to do so, but would love to play it in a Brahms/Brucker/Wagner setting.

Jahn Throja bass:

I love it, although it is becoming old and has been used really intensely for quite some time. Might get it completely refurbished by its maker. Not a completely traditional German bass, but still significantly different than American basses.

So what else is on the list?

I am basically always keeping my eyes open.

At some point I might get a euphonium and bass trumpet might be fun.

Two things I am really looking into: Getting another bass trombone (maybe a Conn) and getting a large tenor with attachment again. Although I have never played one I have for years been interested in Greenhoes, but this is probably not covered by my budget :-D

I do actually practice on all these horns.

On the one hand because it's fun, on the other hand because I have four of them in my (home-)office and three of them in the basement with practice mutes. Note that I am not a professional anymore.

In case this is interesting:

I am playing different mouthpieces on all of them. It's not really an issue, as long as I regularly practice the smallest and the largest ones. For me this feels like getting the most out of it and having the best fit between mouthpiece and instrument.

Tremozl · by **Tremozl** » 2020-05-03 8:27 p.m.

I mostly score music for film and game but I "make noise" on these from time to time:

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2020-05-04 7:27 p.m.

This photo is a couple of years old but it will do.

Top row L-R:

- 1973 King 3B - probably the horn that leaves the house the most.

- Selmer Largo (9" bell, with F) - I no longer own this one, but I now own a 1972 King 3BF that is a near-perfect match for my straight 3B.

- 1962 Conn 88H - I love this trombone, but it needs a slide job pretty badly.

- 1963 Conn 72H - my daily driver, at least in theory. It has independent Yamaha rotors.

Middle row L-R:

- Carol Brass CTR-2000H-YSS trumpet - I no longer own this one.

- 1968 Conn 8B trumpet - also leaves the house a lot. Great old-school sound, needs to be restored though.

- 2008 Kanstul 975 euphonium - heavy valves but a lovely sound.

- 1969 Conn 16E mellophonium - one of my favorite instruments. I've successfully used it in many professional situations it has no right to be in.

- Selmer Largo bell section (8.5", straight) - I no longer own this one, sold with the other Largo. I miss them both but they were practically useless.

- Lidl rotary Bb bass trumpet - got this for an absolute steal on eBay (which is true for most everything here). True bass trumpet sound, with true bass trumpet deficiencies.

- 196x Conn 72H bell section - I no longer own this one.

Bottom row L-R:

- Selman 17001 C trumpet - plays shockingly well, and I've used it on a ton of gigs.

- Bach CR310 cornet - it's ok.

- DEG/Willson 1220 alto cornet in F - needs some work, but is a great instrument. It can blend seamlessly with either trombones or flugelhorns, and I've used it in sessions in between those instruments.

- Pre-WWI Couesnon flugelhorn - that addicting velvety sound you'd expect, but it BADLY needs a full restoration. I use it very frequently anyway.

- 1984 King 1130 flugabone - cosmetically trashed (obviously an old high school horn) but plays very well.

French horns:

- 1938 Conn 6D - I no longer own this one. Wish I was able to keep it around long enough to send it off for a Lanstro conversion. It was a special instrument even in its derelict, no-compression state.

- 1971 Holton H178 - good playing horn, but I don't get along with the medium throat like I do with the larger Farkases. Badly needs valve replating.

I bought an ancient B&H Imperial compensating Eb tuba maybe a year after this photo was taken, owned it for a few months, used it on a few sessions, and then sold it because I was never using it and needed the money. Also had a Selman alto trombone for a while. Other than a bunch of synthesizers I've bought and sold, everything else is the same.

On the to-do list is to repair and restore everything that needs it, and then I can start filling the holes. Alto trombone, tuba, contrabass trombone, descant horn, soprano trombone, tenor horn, maybe an Eb trumpet, and a nice 6H.

Vegastokc · by **Vegastokc** » 2020-05-06 2:54 p.m.

To all:

Thanks for sharing your beautiful and unique collections. Very cool stuff. :good:

Now when my wife gives me crap for buying another horn, I can show her that I am very, very small potatoes; not anywhere close to this level. :lol: :lol: :lol:

fsgazda · by **fsgazda** » 2020-05-06 5:04 p.m.

List from my profile:

BASS: Shires Stacked F and D Axial Flow Valves, BI 1GLW Bell, B2L Leadpipe, B Tuning Slide. Doug Elliott LB112.L.L8 Mouthpiece.

LARGE TENOR: Shires Axial Flow Valve, 7YM Bell, 2 Leadpipe. Doug Elliott XT103.G.G8 Mouthpiece.

SMALL TENOR: Shires S08 1YM. T08 1.5 Leadpipe. Doug Elliott XT103.C+.D2 Mouthpiece.

ALTO: JP Rath 236. Doug Elliott MT103.C.altoS Mouthpiece.

EUPHONIUM: Shires Q41 4 Valve Compensating. Doug Elliott XT103.I.I9 Mouthpiece.

TUBA: Walter Nirschl MWN4 5 valve EEb. Canadian Brass Arnold Jacobs Mouthpiece.

TUBA: M & M "Fletcher" Model 4 Valve Compensating EEb. Denis Wick 3L Mouthpiece.

BASS TRUMPET: Holton Model 58 3 Piston Valve with custom main tuning slide trigger. Doug Elliott MT103.C.C2 Mouthpiece.

Kingfan · by **Kingfan** » 2020-05-06 5:10 p.m.

[quote="Amconk"]<QUOTE author="Kingfan" post_id="111876" time="1588457213" user_id="3053">
King 2B, King 3B, King 3B-F, King 4B-F, King 7B.[/quote]

Need a 5B and a Duo Gravis now!
</QUOTE>
No, then I would have to get an 8B, a valve section for the 2B and 3B, then start on the Silver Sonics. :horror:

HawaiiTromboneGuy · by **HawaiiTromboneGuy** » 2020-05-06 7:21 p.m.

Newest horn arrived today. :good:

Posaunus · by **Posaunus** » 2020-05-06 7:37 p.m.

[quote="HawaiiTromboneGuy"]Newest horn arrived today. :good:[/quote]

Williams 10? :idk:

bassbone721 · by **bassbone721** » 2020-05-06 7:44 p.m.

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Main Axe: Edwards B-454

Large Tenor: Bach 42 Corp.

Small Tenor: King 2b

Alto: JP 136

Contra: Dillon

Euph (not pictured): Besson 3v comp

mrdeacon · by **mrdeacon** » 2020-05-06 7:53 p.m.

[quote="Posaunus"]<QUOTE author="HawaiiTromboneGuy" post_id="112292" time="1588807319" user_id="3695">
Newest horn arrived today. :good:[/quote]

Williams 10? :idk:
</QUOTE>
Pretty sure it's a 9. Says it on the slide receiver.

HawaiiTromboneGuy · by **HawaiiTromboneGuy** » 2020-05-06 8:03 p.m.

[quote="Posaunus"]<QUOTE author="HawaiiTromboneGuy" post_id="112292" time="1588807319" user_id="3695">
Newest horn arrived today. :good:[/quote]

Williams 10? :idk:
</QUOTE>

Model 9

Mv2541 · by **Mv2541** » 2020-05-06 8:29 p.m.

[quote="fsgazda"]

List from my profile:

BASS: Shires Stacked F and D Axial Flow Valves, BI 1GLW Bell, B2L Leadpipe, B Tuning Slide. Doug Elliott LB112.L.L8 Mouthpiece.

LARGE TENOR: Shires Axial Flow Valve, 7YM Bell, 2 Leadpipe. Doug Elliott XT103.G.G8 Mouthpiece.

SMALL TENOR: Shires S08 1YM. T08 1.5 Leadpipe. Doug Elliott XT103.C+.D2 Mouthpiece.

ALTO: JP Rath 236. Doug Elliott MT103.C.altoS Mouthpiece.

EUPHONIUM: Shires Q41 4 Valve Compensating. Doug Elliott XT103.I.I9 Mouthpiece.

TUBA: Walter Nirschl MWN4 5 valve EEb. Canadian Brass Arnold Jacobs Mouthpiece.

TUBA: M & M "Fletcher" Model 4 Valve Compensating EEb. Denis Wick 3L Mouthpiece.

BASS TRUMPET: Holton Model 58 3 Piston Valve with custom main tuning slide trigger. Doug Elliott MT103.C.C2 Mouthpiece.[/quote]

Just sayin- a D3 shank would probably be a better fit for a .508 horn. D2 is made for .500 horns.

Amconk · by **Amconk** » 2020-05-06 8:54 p.m.

[quote="Kingfan"]<QUOTE author="Amconk" post_id="111911" time="1588479646" user_id="3398">

Need a 5B and a Duo Gravis now![/quote]
No, then I would have to get an 8B, a valve section for the 2B and 3B, then start on the Silver Sonics. :horror:
</QUOTE>
And what would be wrong with that? <EMOJI seq="1f601" tseq="1f601">😁</EMOJI>

Kingfan · by **Kingfan** » 2020-05-06 11:39 p.m.

[quote="Amconk"]<QUOTE author="Kingfan" post_id="112280" time="1588799427" user_id="3053">

No, then I would have to get an 8B, a valve section for the 2B and 3B, then start on the Silver Sonics. :horror:[/quote]
And what would be wrong with that? <EMOJI seq="1f601" tseq="1f601">😁</EMOJI>
</QUOTE>

OK, I'll do it! Send me $20,000 and I'll get started. :pant:

Amconk · by **Amconk** » 2020-05-07 12:07 a.m.

[quote="Kingfan"]<QUOTE author="Amconk" post_id="112303" time="1588812874" user_id="3398">

And what would be wrong with that? <EMOJI seq="1f601" tseq="1f601">😁</EMOJI>[/quote]

OK, I'll do it! Send me $20,000 and I'll get started. :pant:
</QUOTE>

You know what bro, if I had it to spare, I’d do it! Isn’t it crazy how much these things cost? I could buy a good used car for what I’ve got into my custom shires tenor...

BillO · by **BillO** » 2020-05-07 7:07 p.m.

[quote="Tremozl"]I mostly score music for film and game but I "make noise" on these from time to time:[/quote]
Wow, the double valve bass looks like a child's toy next to the huge contra. How does that behemoth play?

Tremozl · by **Tremozl** » 2020-05-09 7:02 p.m.

[quote="BillO"]<QUOTE author="Tremozl" post_id="111995" time="1588552044" user_id="4293">
I mostly score music for film and game but I "make noise" on these from time to time:[/quote]
Wow, the double valve bass looks like a child's toy next to the huge contra. How does that behemoth play?
</QUOTE>

It's a bit of a bitch, but the sound it makes is truly awesome, which is why I like it.

The biggest drawback that I find is that some of the partials are hard to center, and I suspect this has to do with too much small-bore tubing, especially when playing at the bottom of its dual-bore slide.

The weight is actually pretty good; balance is great and, though it is heavier than a Bass, it's nowhere near as heavy as it might 'look'. I never bothered with buying a grip/support for it (though I usually only play it for 30 minutes at a time.)

p.s. this is an authentic Mirafone. I've played a Jinbao too, and it was worse in a couple of ways. The slide was much lighter, which laid more weight on the back of the horn, and for whatever reason (probably the brass or the lacquer) it just sounded dead.

NBischoff · by **NBischoff** » 2020-05-10 4:55 a.m.

Conn 14K Sousaphone

Bach 50B3

Bach 50T3 w/ Shires BI-1GT7 Bell (Main axe)

Amati G Bass Trombone

Bach 42K (1975 Corp 42B w/ aftermarket conversion)

Mirafone 183 Eb tuba

Not pictured is my King 3B Silver Sonic, which is currently in quarantine with Benn Hansson.

heinzgries · by **heinzgries** » 2020-05-10 5:21 a.m.

My instruments:

- Jupiter slide trumpet

- B&S Eb alto

- Bach 39 Eb alto

- Courtois Eb alto

- Conn 34H Eb alto

- Thorsten Mittag custom Eb alto

- Helmut Voigt big bore Eb alto

- Kromat F alto

- Pfretzschner F alto

- Bach LT 6 gold plated tenor

- Getzen super deluxe silver plated tenor

- Getzen 3508R tenor

- Reisser old tenor trombone german style

- Hawkes tenor peashooter build around 1900

MStarke · by **MStarke** » 2020-05-10 6:43 a.m.

[quote="heinzgries"]My instruments:

- Jupiter slide trumpet

- B&S Eb alto

- Bach 39 Eb alto

- Courtois Eb alto

- Conn 34H Eb alto

- Thorsten Mittag custom Eb alto

- Helmut Voigt big bore Eb alto

- Kromat F alto

- Pfretzschner F alto

- Bach LT 6 gold plated tenor

- Getzen super deluxe silver plated tenor

- Getzen 3508R tenor

- Reisser old tenor trombone german style

- Hawkes tenor peashooter build around 1900[/quote]

Wow, interesting collection of altos!

Would be great if you could at some point find the Time to do a comprehensive overview and comparison of the different models. This would certainly be worth a separate threat!

SwissTbone · by **SwissTbone** » 2020-05-10 7:31 a.m.

[quote="GermanTrombone"]<QUOTE author="heinzgries" post_id="112642" time="1589102491" user_id="3138">
My instruments:

- Jupiter slide trumpet

- B&S Eb alto

- Bach 39 Eb alto

- Courtois Eb alto

- Conn 34H Eb alto

- Thorsten Mittag custom Eb alto

- Helmut Voigt big bore Eb alto

- Kromat F alto

- Pfretzschner F alto

- Bach LT 6 gold plated tenor

- Getzen super deluxe silver plated tenor

- Getzen 3508R tenor

- Reisser old tenor trombone german style

- Hawkes tenor peashooter build around 1900[/quote]

Wow, interesting collection of altos!

Would be great if you could at some point find the Time to do a comprehensive overview and comparison of the different models. This would certainly be worth a separate threat!
</QUOTE>

+1

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2020-05-10 11:54 a.m.

[quote="NBischoff"]

Conn 14K Sousaphone

Bach 50B3

Bach 50T3 w/ Shires BI-1GT7 Bell (Main axe)

Amati G Bass Trombone

Bach 42K (1975 Corp 42B w/ aftermarket conversion)

Mirafone 183 Eb tuba

Not pictured is my King 3B Silver Sonic, which is currently in quarantine with Benn Hansson.[/quote]

Never knew Amati made a G bass!

Bach42t · by **Bach42t** » 2020-05-12 12:27 p.m.

[quote="Finetales"]<QUOTE author="NBischoff" post_id="112641" time="1589100940" user_id="3365">

Conn 14K Sousaphone

Bach 50B3

Bach 50T3 w/ Shires BI-1GT7 Bell (Main axe)

Amati G Bass Trombone

Bach 42K (1975 Corp 42B w/ aftermarket conversion)

Mirafone 183 Eb tuba

Not pictured is my King 3B Silver Sonic, which is currently in quarantine with Benn Hansson.[/quote]

Never knew Amati made a G bass!
</QUOTE>

Nice Bachs, 42K is a rare steed indeed.

ChadA · by **ChadA** » 2020-05-12 1:46 p.m.

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Here's mine. They're described and pictured in more detail ~~[url=http://www.chadarnow.com/equipment.html]~~here.

From top to bottom:

Yamaha 671T Alto

Conn 8H (Elkhart bell section, 90s 2547 slide)

Conn/Greenhoe 88HTG

Davis Shuman DS-128

Custom Shires w/Edwards dual bore slide bass trombone

Customized Shires ProSelect bass trombone

Wessex Dolce Cantabile Euphonium

SwissTbone · by **SwissTbone** » 2020-05-12 1:59 p.m.

[quote="ChadA"]From top to bottom:

Yamaha 671T Alto

Conn 8H (Elkhart bell section, 90s 2547 slide)

Conn/Greenhoe 88HTG

Davis Shuman DS-128

Custom Shires w/Edwards dual bore slide bass trombone

Customized Shires ProSelect bass trombone

Wessex Dolce Cantabile Euphonium[/quote]

And you obviously know how to take good pics of your trombones. Nice!

Jnoxon · by **Jnoxon** » 2020-05-13 9:32 p.m.

How about the all Williams Collection?

Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2020-05-13 9:51 p.m.

Ordered quite helpfully in how much money they make (made...) me.

'60s Voight contra, "Bires", 42T, 3B/F, "Jank" 3BSS.

more bits and pieces, and a horn in the works. Coming soon!

Oslide · by **Oslide** » 2020-05-14 2:55 p.m.

[quote="Jnoxon"]How about the all Williams Collection?[/quote]

What a great reason to laugh! Congratulations! :good:

deanmccarty · 2020-05-15 5:14 p.m.

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L-R:

Wessex Piccolo (just as a decoration... but it does play)

Jupiter Soprano, Schilke 24 mouthpiece

Rath R10 nickel brushed bell, Elliott 95B2

Rath R3F nickel bell with Rotax rotor, Elliott 100D4

Stormtrooper pBone

Rath R4F nickel bell with Hagmann valve, Elliott 100G8 mouthpiece

JP Rath 236 alto, Elliott 95B2 mouthpiece

Rath R9D nickel bell with dependent Rotax rotors, Schilke Reichenbach mouthpiece

Not shown:

Miraphone 282 Tuba, Elliott 126N mouthpiece

Mirafone 47WL Loimayr Tenorhorn, Elliott 100E custom mouthpiece

Willson 2900 Euphonium, Elliott 102J mouthpiece

Schilke 1040 Flugelhorn, AR Resonance MD40 mouthpiece

Getzen 3850 Cornet, Wick 4W Heritage mouthpiece

Conn 6D French Horn, Schilke 30 mouthpiece

Cotboneman · by **Cotboneman** » 2020-05-16 6:39 p.m.

Here's my collection; Getzen 1050 Eterna (after BAC restoration in 2019), Yamaha 5335 Bb trumpet, John Packer 133 MLR medium bore, JP/Rath 3320 (.547 bore), Getzen 1062FD dependent bass, in front of a Williams digital piano. The Getzens are more than 20 years old, and the Yamaha is about 15 years old. The Packer/Rath and Packer horns are much newer. Not pictured are my pTrumpet, pBone and Coolwind plastic trombones. In retirement from nearly 35 years of teaching high school band and choir, I now have the time for all of them! I'm also delighted to have learned how to attach a photo to a post here :D

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Bloo · by **Bloo** » 2020-05-16 7:50 p.m.

My room is fairly messy at the moment, but if anyone wants pictures I can get some.

1919 York "Professional" tenor trombone

Conn 23H tenor trombone with a sanded finish

Eastman 432 tenor trombone

Unmarked Schiller bass trombone (higher end model, with rose brass bell and an Eb/D trigger)

Unmarked King Euphonium with front-facing valves

King 600 trumpet (this is the only instrument I have in perfect condition)

King 601 trumpet (kindly named "s**t tooter" by my band mates)

Silver King French Horn

1964 Giannini Rosewood Classical Guitar

Simmons Electric Drum Kit

sacfxdx · by **sacfxdx** » 2020-05-16 8:24 p.m.

XO Brass 1240 RL-T

1961 3B Silversonic

Lawler Model 1

3BF bell section

Benge 170 Freelance

Conn 88H (on case)

SlideCrook · by **SlideCrook** » 2020-05-17 7:44 p.m.

Phil Teele’s Yamaha YBL-612. Triggers Split, kept string linkage on the F valve. Plays great, wish the 10 inch was more 9.5ish.

King 3BF, early 70s, family hand-me-down. In 1998 when I first started trombone, this was my first trombone. I always wanted a bigger one with 0.547, and an 8.5inch bell. I always blamed the trombone for being too small. The problem was my mouthpiece was too large! 6.5AL was just a wrong fit. I now play on a vintage King 11M and feel like I have unlocked this horn’s potential, and my own. I have guilt over ever giving this horn blame for anything, it was all ME and trying to expect a Bach 42 out of a King 3B.

Martin TR4501 Urbie Green Model. New to me, seriously the absolute lightest horn I’ve ever held, and is super nimble and colorful. I would put it up against any of the boutique 500s in it’s capabilities.

King 606. Bought it off shopgoodwill for 30 dollars, has the best slide out of all my slides, funny enough. If there was a receipt in the case from the slide doctor I would believe it. Built like a tank, and way underrated. Has a oven cleaner and 3m scotchbrite finish.

Selman nickel silver alto. I hate this trombone. It feels flat and out of tune, but I put it on a tuner and it’s in bE, with the tuning slide about to fall out. Probably needs the lead pipe replaced. And I’m using a 12C, and don’t have much alto experience, but this thing just doesn’t jive with me.

Ludwig G/D bass bugle. Funnily out of tune.

Bach TR500 trumpet. A pretty good trumpet, works great.

Reynolds Emperor Cornet. Fun to play.

Carl Fischer Zephyr peashooter trumpet. Salvaged from goodwill, and “rehabbed” in my bathtub with soap and water and oil, plays good, but not a single slide moves, had a peculiar, LASER-like tone due to narrow bore and cylindricity.

King Cleveland Alto Saxophone From goodwill

Normandy Clarinet from goodwill

Cecilio/Mendini MTB33. Bought by surprise at an Amazon return pallet auction. Slide was immovable, but this trombone was in mint condition. I spent 30 minutes with the bathtub and cleaning rod, added some yamasnot, and it has a surprisingly good slide. This thing is heavy! And plays a lot better than I was expecting. Valve is good, and nothing feels flimsy. Time will tell on this, but it also came with a lawn mower and water heater, disc brake rotors for cars I don’t have, a Dewalt tile saw, and a remote control electric smoker with a bent handle.

LeTromboniste · by **LeTromboniste** » 2020-05-18 5:00 p.m.

Unfortunately I can't get a picture of the entire stable because they're not in all in the same location

Here are my main axe (Egger tenor sackbut, 2014) and the three doubling instruments I'm at various stages of learning: tenor cornett (3D-printed by Ricardo Simian), Renaissance slide trumpet (Graham Nicholson, 2018), ophicleide in Bb (Wessex).

Two of my Romantic trombones. Left is a large-bore German straight tenor (Christian Reisser, probably mid-20th century). Right is a French peashooter (Courtois, ca. 1890). Tiny bore, tiny bell, tiny mouthpiece, perfect for Bolero :pant:. Also extra long tuning slide, can tune to anywhere between 430 and 452!

My other German Romantic trombone (unkown maker, probably early-20th century), a convertible large bore tenor-bass (it has an unusually large bell throat, so really works best as a bass). Currently in the shop for some touch-up work on the slide.

My first, and formerly main trombone, Bach LT42 (1994, originally LT42BO, converted to Hagmann early 2011, and with M/K bronze crook), which sadly mostly lives in its case now...

The horn I use(d) for jazz and will use when I play some Pryor. Conn small bore (ca. 1913). Equivalent to a 2H. I love this horn but unfortunately haven't had any opportunity to bring it over since I moved to Europe.

I have a few more back home but mostly not playable or worth making playable.

Next on the purchase list is a bass sackbut - it's almost the instrument I play most but I've been borrowing and renting horns for 3 years...working with a maker to build a new model, we were supposed to go inspect and try a couple of originals to decide which to copy but then corona hit :weep:

NateR · by **NateR** » 2020-05-18 9:47 p.m.

I feel like real small potatoes! And maybe shouldn't feel so badly about looking at other horns on the internet... :shuffle:

Glassl Alto

H.N. White American standard (with green Gator Skin style case- not pictured!)

Edwards T350 CR-E

Edwards T396A

Shires Q Series Bass Trombone

Not pictured:

Bach TB200 (my old marching band horn)

Bach Corporation 36B

Conn 3V E-flat tuba

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2020-05-18 11:36 p.m.

[quote="NateR"]And maybe shouldn't feel so badly about looking at other horns on the internet... :shuffle:[/quote]

It's a way of life.

Amconk · by **Amconk** » 2020-05-19 1:57 a.m.

[quote="NBischoff"]

Conn 14K Sousaphone

Bach 50B3

Bach 50T3 w/ Shires BI-1GT7 Bell (Main axe)

Amati G Bass Trombone

Bach 42K (1975 Corp 42B w/ aftermarket conversion)

Mirafone 183 Eb tuba

Not pictured is my King 3B Silver Sonic, which is currently in quarantine with Benn Hansson.[/quote]

How do you like that K valve? Always thought it was a neat design, but I’ve never tried one.

tbonesullivan · by **tbonesullivan** » 2020-05-19 3:05 p.m.

[quote="SlideCrook"]Phil Teele’s Yamaha YBL-612. Triggers Split, kept string linkage on the F valve. Plays great, wish the 10 inch was more 9.5ish.[/quote] Really great to see that Phil Teele's instruments are still making music, after his passing. Is it all yellow brass? They really are/were underrated horns. Is the leadpipe on it stock?

With my 612, I found that having the D crook on the right side of the valve section resulted in it being a bit more "balanced". Also the Yamaha case itself will only hold the D crook installed on that side.

tbonesullivan · by **tbonesullivan** » 2020-05-19 3:13 p.m.

My stable has been pretty consistent for some time now. I do need to to get a new picture with the Euphonium and Tuba pictured as well. Also I have two horns that I haven't had a chance to picture yet due to me being really lazy.

Unpictured are a Kanstul 1588CR and a Bach 39 Alto formerly owned by Byron Peebles. Also my Sterling Euphonium and Yamaha YBB-631 BBb tuba.

Pictured, left to right:

Yamaha YBL-612 RII Bass trombone. D-crook installed. N/S outer slide and Red Brass bell.

Bach 42T. All yellow brass. Has had a lot of work done on it due to Bach not knowing how to assemble Thayer Valves properly back in 2000.

Kanstul 1570CR. Love this horn. Like a lightweight Bach 42. Very responsive and light.

Yamaha YSL-640. Great pit horn, also great for 1st parts in small orchestras, for small ensembles, and lots of other things.

King 2103 / 3B from around 1994-5 or so. Has some cool engraving on the top of the barrel, and "KING 3B" on the inside of the bell. Standard yellow brass bell. My first "professional" horn. Still love it.

Mikebmiller · by **Mikebmiller** » 2020-05-19 4:01 p.m.

Not as big as some of you guys - JP 136 also. Rath R3/4 (depending on which bell I am using), Lawler Model 1 in red brass with nickel slide, and JP 274 Euphonium that I just bought before the world shut down.

~~[url]~~https://photos.app.goo.gl/2wwBiZrqFzQp7qGN7

NBischoff · by **NBischoff** » 2020-05-20 4:22 a.m.

[quote="Amconk"]

How do you like that K valve? Always thought it was a neat design, but I’ve never tried one.[/quote]

It's definitely the most open blow I've ever had on a tenor valve. B-flat in 3rd is almost better than the open horn! I've played two examples of the 50K3 as well, one good and one meh, but overall, I think the valve is better suited for tenors.

NBischoff · by **NBischoff** » 2020-05-20 4:25 a.m.

[quote="Finetales"]

Never knew Amati made a G bass![/quote]

Neither did I before I picked this one up!

NBischoff · by **NBischoff** » 2020-05-20 4:36 a.m.

[quote="Bach42t"]Nice Bachs, 42K is a rare steed indeed.[/quote]

Thanks! The valve section is actually not original to this particular horn. Eric Edwards was kind enough to sell it to me and Benn Hansson did the conversion. He also rebuilt the slide, set it up with a bi-threaded leadpipe receiver and an Edwards nickel silver bass crook. He turned an alright Corp 42B into a winner!

hyperbolica · by **hyperbolica** » 2020-05-26 4:48 p.m.

I made some changes to my roundup recently, so here's the new herd:

From left to right:

- 8h/36b frankenbone

- Kanstul 1662i

- Mack Brass TU422 tuba (3/4 BBb 4v front piston)

- 78h (behind tuba)

- 88h (slant behind 78h)

- 79h

- Wessex Festivo

- Olds Recording (LA)

Anonymous · by **Anonymous** » 2020-05-26 8:13 p.m.

Just two!

- Edwards T396-A

- Conn TB711F

NBischoff · by **NBischoff** » 2020-05-27 4:40 a.m.

[quote="hyperbolica"]I made some changes to my roundup recently, so here's the new herd:

From left to right:

- 8h/36b frankenbone

- Kanstul 1662i

- Mack Brass TU422 tuba (3/4 BBb 4v front piston)

- 78h (behind tuba)

- 88h (slant behind 78h)

- 79h

- Wessex Festivo

- Olds Recording (LA)[/quote]

I've been thinking about picking up a TU422. How do you like it?

hyperbolica · by **hyperbolica** » 2020-05-27 9:44 a.m.

[quote="NBischoff"]I've been thinking about picking up a TU422. How do you like it?[/quote]

I'm not much of a tubist, I've sold off 3 previous tubas that I've had. The first one put the bell at my ear and I just couldn't hear partials with it, the second was a tiny Eb, and it created too much chaos with a second set of fingerings when I'm not really secure in Bb fingerings, and the third was some oddball old instrument that just didn't do it for me either.

The TU422 is just right for me, although the mouthpiece it ships with is too big. It's relatively small, a 3/4 and about 16 lbs. But it has a big tuba sound. I'm sure the mouthpiece is part of that. I've got some smaller mouthpieces coming to see what works. I had some good advice from people familiar with this or the Yamaha equivalent (YBB621). I'll be more nimble on it with the smaller mouthpiece, and the air won't be such a problem.

The only other bad thing I'd say about it, well, 2 things. First the slides are pretty stiff, but sanding them down helps for the ones you might use a lot. Second, it only has 1 spit valve, and it needs at least 1 more, maybe 2-3 more. I'll probably have a local shop install some saturns or equivalent once I've been annoyed sufficiently by dumping slides.

The valves aren't bad, they do need a little breaking in. My Wessex Festivo took some months to break in, playing it a couple times a week. The 422 isn't as tight as the Festivo was.

The ergonomics was a big concern for me, and I like the 4 in front configuration. The 4th valve is a little close in, but it's ok. I use a leather bandolier strap, and it holds the horn up perfectly so the left hand can play with slides if necessary.

I don't really want to comment on the intonation until I get a proper mouthpiece. Right now, some of the higher partials seem a little low, and there are a lot of split tones. The mouthpiece it comes with has a huge throat, which I don't really like.

thatme · by **thatme** » 2020-05-27 1:45 p.m.

Here’s mine (minus an old King 4-valve baritone that my son plays in band):

B&S GR-51 BBB Tuba

Rath R4 Bass

Getzen 3047 Tenor

I’ve done a lot of horn trying and trading the last few years but I think these are all keepers.

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Jnoxon · by **Jnoxon** » 2020-05-30 8:18 p.m.

[quote="Oslide"]<QUOTE author="Jnoxon" post_id="113087" time="1589419924" user_id="3021">
How about the all Williams Collection?[/quote]

What a great reason to laugh! Congratulations! :good:
</QUOTE>

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Laugh all you want too!!lol

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2023-01-18 9:22 p.m.

2023 bump!

Top row L-R: 1990s King 607, 1962 Conn 88H, 1963 Conn 72H (Yamaha valves), 1972 Olds S24G (for sale!)

Bottom row L-R: 1984 King 1130 flugabone, unmarked German soprano trombone with rotor in A/Ab/G/F, 1973 King 3B, 1972 King 3BF, 196x Conn 72H bell section (thinking about selling)

Top row L-R: Lidl rotary bass trumpet, Jin Bao JBBR-1240 British baritone horn, 1905-1931 Pelissón bass saxhorn in C, 2007 Sterling Virtuoso euphonium

Second row L-R: Kanstul 190 G baritone bugle, Schiller marching French horn, 1980s Kanstul meehaphone, 1990s Kanstul KAH-175 G alto bugle, late-1970s Yamaha YTR-737 Bb trumpet, Selman 17001 C trumpet

Third row L-R: Dynasty G350A G soprano bugle, pre-WWI Couesnon flugelhorn, mid-1970s DEG/Willson 1220 alto cornet in F, mid-1970s Dynasty III G alto bugle, Mendini MPT-N pocket trumpet

Bottom row L-R: 1971 Holton H178 double horn, Jackalope Brassworks/Hampson Horns corno da tirarsi

Top row L-R: 1969 Conn 16E mellophonium, Yamaha YMP-201M marching mellophone, Yamaha YMP-201 circular mellophone (F/Eb)

Bottom row L-R: 1930 Conn 8E ballad horn (C/Bb), 1918 Conn 6E mellophone (Eb), 1925 Buescher 25 mellophone (F/Eb/D/C)

Not pictured: King K-50 G mellophone bugle (I knew I'd forget one...), Nirschl mellophone (in the shop), Bach CR310 cornet (not in playable or even presentable condition), late-1970s Getzen 383 frumpet (lives in my parents' house on the other side of the country).

Bard · by **Bard** » 2023-01-19 7:41 a.m.

My horns:

- King 3B - 1979 - old and worn but my main goto horn

- Conn 6H - 1967 - I should play more on this - really nice to play, especially on technical stuff

- Yamaha 697Z - nice to play but not so interesting, going to sell this one

- Conn 77H Conquest - bought for 100USD, lots of dents and really worn so I don't play it - maybe I will fix it some day

- Conn 88H Artist Symphony - 1990 - if I should need a large bore or a F-valve

- pBone

Horns that I have sold:

- King 3B - 1977 - bought it mint condition but I liked my old one better so sold this one

- King 2B Silversonic - 1967 - Never got used to this so I sold it. But the buyer was really happy with it

- Bach 36 B/F - bought 1981 and sold around 1995

Next:

I really like the sound of the Kings but I am also considering Michael Davis +. I playtested King 3B and Michael Davis + against each other in a shop and I liked the MD+ far better than the 3B, easier to play and better manufactured. But when I listen to my recordings that i made that day I find that i like the sound of the 3B better.

So candidates for next horn are: King 2B, MD+, Courtois Xtreme 402

I play mainly kind of horn-section stuff with a latin band and a reggae-band.

Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2023-01-19 9:47 a.m.

Do I have to take pictures of all this now??

The current stable is...

Bach 50 modular with:

'80s 50 bell

Corp 50 bell

Corp 50 screwbell

Hoelle reversed seamed copper tuning slide

Olsen axials

Shires B62/78

Edwards DBB

Edwards DBN

Yamaha 613

Elkhart Conn 62H, Kanstul 1662 bell

Conn 6H

Bach LT16M

King 3B/F

King 608F

Bach LT42TG

Holton TR-258

Laetzsch SL-600 contrabass (F/D/BBb/AAb)

Valved horns:

Lidl Bb bass trumpet

Yamaha YEP-842S

Yamaha YBH-301MS

In progress:

another modular 50 with Kanstul CR valves

Bach large bore modular project with:

Corp 36 bell

Corp 42 bell

42G* bell

straight neckpipe

K valve

Hagmann valve

reverse tuning slides

Shires TB47

Edwards TBCN

Corp 42 slide

Corp 36 slide, widened

MStarke · by **MStarke** » 2023-01-19 10:06 a.m.

I am glad that there are people with bigger issues than myself :-D

Current stable (may have posted here before):

Kanstul alto

Voigt alto

Weril alto

3x Conn 6h

Modern Conn 88ht

Elkhart Conn 88h

Conn 112h bell with 62h slide

Greenhoe Conn-style dependent TIS bass

Kruspe, Heckel and Piering replica German tenors

Besson intermediate euphonium

Schmid 4 valve bass trumpet

Some more that are soon being sold to reduce the stable a bit.

I try to be practicing more or less consistently on alto, small and large tenor, bass and valve instruments as I also get to play this variety in different occasions.

Between small/large tenor and bass it makes it easier for me to play instruments of more or less similar style and I love Conn(-style) instruments.

The German trombones are not really in use at the moment.

And my excuse for having two more or less similar sets of trombones is having two different practice locations.

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2023-01-19 10:58 a.m.

[quote="Burgerbob"]Do I have to take pictures of all this now??[/quote]

Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

tbonesullivan · by **tbonesullivan** » 2023-01-19 12:20 p.m.

I do need to get some actual pictures of my horns one of these days, when I can figure out how to take decent pictures.

Current Fleet:

Alto:

-Bach LT39, formerly owned and picked out at the Bach factory by Byron Peebles

Tenors:

-King 2103 / 3B, purchased new around the end of 1995. Only Straight Horn I've owned aside from my student model.

-Bach LT36B - recent acquisition but definitely a keeper. It's what I always wished my Yamaha YSL-640 was.

-Bach 42BOF - another recent acquisition and probably a keeper. It's what I always wished my Bach 42T was.

-Kanstul 1570CR - The Bach 42 "Lite", as I usually call it. Definitely a nice horn and a bit more nimble than a real 42.

-Kanstul 1588CR- A Conn 88H "style" Kanstul, with a narrower Conn style slide and made mostly from rose brass. Never really had a chance to compare it to an actual Conn 88H, so I have no idea how well it holds up, but it definitely plays quite differently than then the 1570.

Euphonium:

- Sterling Perantucci 1065GHS Euphonium. It does play well though it was definitely a high school used horn and possibly used in marching. An overhaul to have it put right might be a good idea. I don't play Euph enough to justify that though. Will definitely need new plastic valve guides soon though.

Basses:

-Yamaha YBL-612 RII. Commercial sounding dependent bass with a 10" bell that can destroy planets? Also works good for some orchestral rep.

-Yamaha YBL-830 Xeno. It just sounds... GOOD. I don't have to fight it at all to get a nice warm orchestral sound, and it definitely responds well to mouthpiece choices.

Project Horn:

- Bach 42T. The horn I got in college replacing a Bach 42CO. Had a factory warped slide, and the Thayer Valve was not set up correctly to remove end play, etc etc etc. It does play well, and after all the time and money I have sunk into it I don't want to let it go. But right now I'm on the fence about whether to have the Thayer replaced with an Infinity Valve and proper gooseneck and offset tubing, or to have some type of rotary put on. I also have thought of just selling it.

Gone but not forgotten:

- Bach 42CO. Purchased in high school so I could "fit in" with the other players in All-state and Region band. Also definitely helped out with playing in all state orchestra. I got it because I thought "why wouldn't I want to be able to play a straight horn sometimes", but rarely did. Probably should have kept it instead of trading it in for a bach 42T. Oh well.

-Benge 190F. Definitely a good horn, but just wasn't for me. It was also kinda beat up, and I have always had trouble dealing with that.

-Yamaha YSL-640. A VERY nice horn. Even response. Sounds good, but the bell on it is really to big for a .525 bore. The tuning slide is literally more open than a Bach 42 tuning slide. A 8" bell with a smaller tuning slide would really make it better if they want a true "medium bore" horn.

-Yamaha YBL-613H S. Silver, and a great player. But keeping it clean was a pain, and it did have some minor issues that would need to be resolved.

Chronos91 · by **Chronos91** » 2023-01-19 6:25 p.m.

The horns that are out (minus the soprano cornet in the corner) are what I'd call my trombone stable. A Bach 50T3 (bell is stamped 50B but it has thayers now so I think this is the designation), a Bach 42BO, and a Shires Q33. Other trombones I have are an Elkhart 100TBA alto and a Yamaha 322 that was modded to add a dependent D valve. The soprano cornet is a Boosey and Hawkes Solbron, but I don't play it. The cases in the first instrument have instruments I'm selling or intend to sell soon. Yamaha Xeno trumpet, Getzen 747, Jean Paul straight trombone, and a 4 valve Getzen Eterna Flugelhorn.

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The cases on the right in the picture without the trombones out are my woodwind stable. An R.S. Berkeley soprano sax, Yamaha 62 alto sax, Yamaha 62 tenor sax, and a Trevor James Cantabile flute. Not pictured instruments that I'm not selling include a Buescher True Tone alto sax, Yamaha 34 clarinet, Schiller alto horn and baritone horn, a Yamaha 231 cornet, a King Bb horn, and a (probably) JinBao double horn.

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Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2023-01-20 12:22 a.m.

This will have to be good enough for now... Getting pictures of all of them will take an hour!

The cases in the middle (in the corner of the room) are doubles, 3 in a row. There's a lot of horns here, plus the extra valve sections in the top right and a couple valve horns not pictured. Yikes.

bassboneman69 · by **bassboneman69** » 2023-01-20 7:18 a.m.

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I have since sold the CR-E valves :weep:

EriKon · by **EriKon** » 2023-01-20 8:24 a.m.

Well okay...

Alto:

Thomann Alto - SL-35

Old German Alto (not in playing condition)

Tenor:

Conn 24H Elkhart

King 2B Liberty

King 2103 3B silver plated

Lätzsch SL-127 'Jazz'

Bach LT36 BOG

Conn 88H Elkhart

Bass:

Edwards B-454

King "Duo Gravis"

Other:

York Valve-Trombone

Yamaha YEP-321 Euphonium

pBone

No picture of them altogether, because they're also stored at different places.

whitbey · by **whitbey** » 2023-02-19 10:04 p.m.

I just updated my horn pics and thought I would post.

All my horns have pics and description in my profile. Please click the profile. Unfortunately, the links in the profile are truncating when I paste them in the post.

I redid the link for this pic of my horns on the trombone stand I made.

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Again, click the profile.........

jonphilpott · by **jonphilpott** » 2023-02-22 6:45 p.m.

Got two new horns this week so it’s time for a stable pic!

L-to-R:

Bach LT16M, modern era (from Mighty Quinn this week!)

Olds Super, ~1939, interesting slide job done by John Upchurch, the inner slide hand brace was replaced with one from what I think is a Bach in order to fix some gnarly alignment. The horn came with a hand written note from John explaining all the work he did

pBone - nothing exciting here

Pan-American valve trombone ~1922 - love this thing but it’s very small bore, practically a trumpet. 7” bell bore is probably around .46x? Has a nice soft tone that I enjoy playing

Thomann SL-5 slide trumpet [new today!] was a b-stock for $103, bought it on a whim and purely for the comedy value. Slide is a bit noisy but works perfectly well when lubed. I was pretty impressed with shipping from Thomann, left Germany on monday, arrived at my door in the US today (wednesday!)

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Kevbach33 · by **Kevbach33** » 2023-02-22 9:50 p.m.

Just 4 instruments to date, taken at different times. They are the same as in my signature.

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schuedoc · by **schuedoc** » 2024-01-11 8:26 a.m.

[quote="Vegastokc"]To all:

Thanks for sharing your beautiful and unique collections. Very cool stuff. :good:

Now when my wife gives me crap for buying another horn, I can show her that I am very, very small potatoes; not anywhere close to this level. :lol: :lol: :lol:[/quote]

Exactly. I'm going trombone shopping next weekend, and showing my wife this thread will be the PERFECT way to soften the blow when I bring home new brass.

BrassSection · by **BrassSection** » 2024-01-11 7:40 p.m.

My humble collection. It serves me well for my needs.

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Holton ST304 Maynard Ferguson trumpet

Cleveland King Superior tenor trombone

Olds Euphonium

Conn 20J tuba

Carl Fischer French horn

harrisonreed · by **harrisonreed** » 2024-01-11 8:29 p.m.

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My whole collection of trombones. I think you just need a good large and small tenor, and an alto or bass if you need one. The bass I use isn't mine so it's not pictured. Maybe someday...

I sold my 88H last year in Japan.

chouston3 · by **chouston3** » 2024-01-11 11:31 p.m.

1938 FE Olds Super

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2024-01-12 12:22 a.m.

2024 bump, eh?

I'm too lazy to take 30 brass instruments out of their cases and pose them for group photos, but I've already taken pictures of all of them individually so here's a very low-effort collage of the current stable instead.

Row 1 L-R: 1973 King 3B, 1972 King 3BF, 1990s King 607, 1961 King 1480, unmarked German trombone, 2023 Y-Fort YSL-763L, 1963 Conn 72H with Yamaha rotors, 1939 B&H Artist's Perfected G bass (small bore)

Row 2 L-R: Schiller compensating euphonium, Jinbao JBBR-1240 British baritone, Blessing M-300 Artist marching baritone, 1984 King 1130 flugabone, Lidl rotary bass trumpet

Row 3 L-R: 1969 Conn 16E mellophonium, Holton M602 mellophonium, King 1120 marching mellophone, late-1970s Getzen 383 frumpet, late-1970s Yamaha YTR-737 Bb trumpet

Row 4 L-R: King Eroica double horn, Holton MH-101 Bb marching horn, Holton LT-101 Bb trumpet, Selman 17001 C trumpet, Mendini MPT-N pocket trumpet

Row 5 L-R: Hampson Horns/Jackalope Brassworks corno da tirarsi (slide horn) in Bb/A/Ab/G, early-1990s Kanstul low alto bugle in G (one of only 6 in the world!), Elkhart (Couesnon) F/Eb alto flugelhorn, pre-WWI Couesnon flugelhorn

Row 6 L-R: 1918 Conn 6E mellophone (Eb), 1925 Buescher 25 mellophone (F/Eb/D/C)

The Buescher mellophone already has a buyer, while the Conn 6E and Holton LT-101 have been for sale for months now. Everything else is here to stay, at least for the time being. Believe it or not, I get paid to play most of these, and the ones I don't are worth very little and still get use in my multitracks.

On the to-do list: tuba, contrabass trombone, alto trombone, alto horn, better C trumpet, Wagner tuba, large-bore British cornet, small-throat double horn, and a bunch of mods and custom jobs. The fun never ends!

imsevimse · by **imsevimse** » 2024-01-12 9:15 a.m.

[quote="Finetales"]2024 bump, eh?

I'm too lazy to take 30 brass instruments out of their cases and pose them for group photos, but I've already taken pictures of all of them individually so here's a very low-effort collage of the current stable[/quote]
I'm impressed! Most impressed that you can play all these instruments so well. :good: I can not list all my instruments. I only list the ones I have on my stands at the moment.

- Lars Gerdt mod 216 Bb/G .500 bore tenor trombone

- Yamaha Bb trumpet YTR 8310Z

- Yamaha Bb Cornet YCR 5335H

- Yamaha Flugelhorn YFH 8315G

- Conn 8D French horn

/Tom

biggiesmalls · by **biggiesmalls** » 2024-01-13 12:29 p.m.

Here's the most recent addition to my stable:

meine · by **meine** » 2024-01-14 3:52 a.m.

Here a fast view at mine. From left to right:

Conn 88HSGX

Sterlung Virtuoso Ebb tuba

Williams Model 10 with M&W valves

York Eminence 4052 euphonium

Conn 70H Fuchs with Hagmann valves

Conn 62H bell with Thein Hagmann Bartok valve

Conn 62H 9.85“ sterling silver bell

Thein basstrombone with CAIDEX valves and Thein gold brass cut bell

gbedinger · by **gbedinger** » 2024-01-15 9:02 a.m.

[quote="biggiesmalls"]Here's the most recent addition to my stable:[/quote]

I like!

tbdana · by **tbdana** » 2024-09-01 9:06 a.m.

Oh, look. Someone dredged this thread up again. (Me! :D )

I don't have much of a stable compared to many of you. But such as it is...

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From left to right:

Bach LT16MG (Mazikeen)

Christian Lindberg Conn 88HCLSGX (Silver Sally)

Greenhoe Bach 50B custom build (Big Bertha)

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2024-09-02 7:18 p.m.

3rd quarter update? I like it!

I'll spare myself from taking the time to make an updated collage, and I'll also spare you all from quoting the last one unedited, but here's how my stable was in January vs. today. Horns in red I no longer have, horns in bold are new.

[quote="Finetales"]1970 King 3B, 1970 King 3BF, 1967 King 607, another King 607, 1976 King 605F, 1964 King 1480, ~~[color=red]~~unmarked German trombone, 2023 Y-Fort YSL-763L, 1963 Conn 72H with Yamaha rotors, 1939 B&H Artist's Perfected G bass (small bore), Yamaha YSL-682G

Schiller Elite IV euphonium, Jinbao JBBR-1240 British baritone, Blessing M-300 Artist marching baritone, 1985 King 1130 flugabone, ~~[color=red]~~Lidl rotary bass trumpet, J. Melich Eb/D rotary bass trumpet

1969 Conn 16E mellophonium, Holton M602 mellophonium, 1993 King 1120 marching mellophone, ~~[color=red]~~late-1970s Getzen 383 frumpet, Kanstul KMA 275 marching alto, late-1970s Yamaha YTR-737 Bb trumpet, Yamaha YCR-2310 cornet

1990 King 2270 Eroica double horn, 1947 Conn 6D Artist double horn, Selmer Thevet Ascendant piston double horn, Yamaha YHR-321 single Bb/A horn, ~~[color=red]~~Holton MH-101 Bb marching horn, ~~[color=red]~~Holton LT-101 Bb trumpet, Selman 17001 C trumpet, Jinyin JYTR-A688S Eb/D trumpet, Mendini MPT-N pocket trumpet

Hampson Horns/Jackalope Brassworks corno da tirarsi (slide horn) in Bb/A/Ab/G, ~~[color=red]~~early-1990s Kanstul low alto bugle in G (one of only 6 in the world!), ~~[color=red]~~Elkhart (Couesnon) F/Eb alto flugelhorn, pre-WWI Couesnon flugelhorn, Cerveny Eb oval althorn

~~[color=red]~~1918 Conn 6E mellophone (Eb), ~~[color=red]~~1925 Buescher 25 mellophone (F/Eb/D/C)[/quote]

JohnL · by **JohnL** » 2024-09-02 8:19 p.m.

That Kanstul marching alto is a rare bird. The only I can remember seeing was in Steve Ferguson's shop.

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2024-09-02 10:13 p.m.

[quote="JohnL"]That Kanstul marching alto is a rare bird. The only I can remember seeing was in Steve Ferguson's shop.[/quote]

Yeah, I've never seen another one. It just showed up on local Facebook Marketplace one day, listed as a mellophone.

Most of those Kanstul marching middle brass are very rare. The Bb marching horn (285) is by far the most common as it was bought by schools, and the late-pattern marching mellophone (280) shows up from time to time. All the others are ultra rare. I've only ever seen evidence of one early-pattern (looks like a King 1120) mellophone, and I'm still looking for evidence of an early-pattern F marching alto (275) or late-pattern G alto bugle (175).

I've somehow owned a lot of the others. The early-pattern G alto bugle (175) was the best of the ones I owned, just a fabulous instrument. But also useless, hence why I sold it. I shouldn't have though, that might be the only horn I've sold that I really wish I could have back. My marching alto is cool and very good, but it doesn't have the magic that 175 had. I've also owned one of the 14 G French horn bugles (185), one of the 6 G low alto bugles (no model number), and the only meehaphone in private hands. It helps to be interested in instruments nobody else is, so you can find them for next to nothing. :lol:

JohnL · by **JohnL** » 2024-09-03 12:08 a.m.

[quote="Finetales"]It helps to be interested in instruments nobody else is, so you can find them for next to nothing. :lol:[/quote]
It also helps to have a recession-resistant job; I was in a position to buy when a lot of people weren't.

WilliamLang · by **WilliamLang** » 2024-09-03 1:15 a.m.

so left to right:

Conn 6h with some customization (bought here!)

Yamaha 882V - awesome large tenor with a unique and very cool valve

Yamaha 671 Alto

Stephens MV42 French Bead with an annealed valve-cap and a little brace near the main tuning slide

Shires Tenor - RVE bell, original O.E Thayer, serial 00445, and a Mt. Vernon Bach Slide

Minick Conn 62h TIS, independent valves with a Mince leadpipe... might be open to selling soon...

in front a good old Yamaha 321

in back a Czech Eb Bass Trumpet with a Scott Sweeney added 4th valve

not pictured: a 70's Bach 43 trumpet, a Yamaha 643-II and a Benge 165f

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carguy2003 · by **carguy2003** » 2024-09-03 2:17 a.m.

Currently have a Bach 42B0 but switched to Bass Trombone and am playing on a Getzen Eterna 1052FDR.

LeTromboniste · by **LeTromboniste** » 2024-09-03 3:17 a.m.

Already posted here but seems the picture links went dead, and there have been some changes.

Egger tenor sackbut after Sebastian Hainlein the Younger (1632)

Slide trumpet by Graham Nicholson after Marcian Guitbert (1442)

Wessex ophicleide in Bb after Gautrot

Tenor cornetto (aka lizard) by Ricardo Simian

Egger bass sackbut after Isaac Ehe (1612), modular model designed with my collaboration, here in its standard (D bass), shortest (G bass) and longest configurations (C contra).

Soon-to-be-added: late-classical/early-romantic bell

Pollter straight German tenor in old traditional Leipzig style (Sattler, Penzel), probably 1890's

Unmarked German convertible tenor-bass similar to a Modell Kuhn

Courtois & Mille French tenor, 1890's

Not depicted:

Christian Reisser straight tenor(-bass) German tenor

Conn S LP (2H-like), 1913

jonathanharker · by **jonathanharker** » 2024-09-08 9:37 p.m.

For my sins, I got a grant from Wikimedia NZ to photograph instruments that don't have good openly licensed (public domain or Creative Commons) photos that can be used in Wikipedia articles. Naturally, I started with trombones and trombone-adjacent, some mine and some from a few friends in the Wellington area. I'll post the results in a few days, but in the meantime I've been tracking the project <URL url="">~~[url=]~~here</URL>.

dukesboneman · by **dukesboneman** » 2024-09-09 2:03 a.m.

OK Here goes.

Bach Lt12G with Kanstul W6 Leadpipe - Mount Vernon 7C

Bach 8G Bell with Modified 12 Slide (I had the over sleeves taken off and a Nickel crook added ) Mount Vernon 7C

Bach (Mount Vernon) Lt 36 with Edwards #2 Leadpipe - PIcket 7S & 7M

Bach 36B Silver Plated (Closet Horn 1976) With Edwards #2 Leadpipe - Picket 7D

Bach 42 BO with The Olsen Rotary Valve - Copy of Minick 5

Bach 50B3 Bass Trombone - GB 1 3/8`s GM

Weril TIS Alto Trombone - Modified Bach 7C Megatone with 1/2 the weight turn down

King 2B Valve trombone with 1953 Nickel Tempo Bell

Blue PBone - Aluminum Jet Tone 7C

Yamaha 641 Straight .551 Bore Tenor Trombone - Picket 6S

1928 Conn Eb Tuba - Miraphone Eb Mouthpiece

Nickel Plated Malhillon Bb tuba - Miraphone Rose Orchestral

Yamaha 321 Euphonium - Schilke 51, 51D & Yamaha 4AY

Forte Oval Tenor Horn - Custom Doug Elliot

Eb/F Alto Flugel horn - Custom Doug Elliot

Conn Herald Bugel - Bach 1 1/2 C

Armstrong 103 Flute

Gemienhardt Piccolo

Artley Alto Flute

Yamaha Fife

Penny Whistle

8 Assorted Pitch Conch Shells - Which I do use on Gigs

Electric Kalimba

Travel Digeridoo (by Lp)

I think That`s it. Please don`t ask for our Mute collection

jonathanharker · by **jonathanharker** » 2024-09-09 10:38 p.m.

[quote="dukesboneman"]Please don`t ask for our Mute collection[/quote]

Here's me not asking about your mute collection

Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2025-12-25 1:09 a.m.

Necroing this thread because I finally managed to get a picture of most of my horns! The ones not in the picture (14 of them...) are currently at the shop long-term.

Pictured left to right, back row to front row:

C.F. Zetsche & Söhne G bass trombone (alone in the far back)

Y-Fort YSL-763L

King 1306 Tempo

King 3B

Conn 70H (1932, F/E)

Willson 551TA G/E/D

Conn 36H Eb/C

Olds Recording R-20 C/A

Willson 311TA Bb/G

Willson 411TA Bb/G

Conn 72H F/Gb Yamaha 830 valveset

Kanstul 902-4C tuba

Schiller Elite IV euphonium

Boosey & Co. Solbron Class A alto horn

Jinbao JBBR-1240 baritone horn

Dynasty (Willson) 1220 alto cornet

Holton M602 mellophonium

Conn 16E mellophonium

Blessing M-300 Artist marching baritone

King 1130 flugabone

E.F. Durand WH960B Wagner tuba

Yamaha YCR-2310 cornet

Conn (Willson) 24A flugelhorn

Yamaha YTR-737 Bb trumpet

Selman 17001 C trumpet

Yamaha YMP-204M marching mellophone

Lidl Bb bass trumpet

Bach 351G alto trumpet

Lyon & Healy Silver Piston C flugelhorn

JinYin JYTR-A688S Eb/D trumpet

Mendini MPT-N pocket trumpet

Kanstul KMB-180 G mellophone bugle

J. Melich Eb/D bass trumpet

Selmer Thevet Ascendant double horn

King 2270 Eroica double horn

Alexander 202ST double horn

Cerveny Vienna horn

Hampson Horns/Jackalope Brassworks corno da tirarsi

Cerveny Eb althorn

The 14 horns at the shop having silly things done to them:

King 3BF

King 607 x2

King 605F

Yamaha YSL-456G

Yamaha YSL-3540R

Palatino straight bass thing

Olds O-48 double horn

Yamaha YHR-321 single Bb horn

Yamaha YMP-201 circular mellophone

Olds Ultratone piston/rotor G mellophone bugle

Olds Ultratone piston/rotor G French horn bugle

King K-40 G flugelhorn bugle

Bach CR-310 cornet

bitbckt · by **bitbckt** » 2025-12-25 8:04 a.m.

I continue to be glad I have Tiffany’s posts to refer to when anyone suggests I have a “problem”!

Beautiful collection.

drnim · by **drnim** » 2025-12-25 11:17 a.m.

Finetales--how do you wind the G/E/D tuning on the Willson? Easier/harder to use?

Posaunus · by **Posaunus** » 2025-12-25 1:55 p.m.

[quote="Finetales"]Necroing this thread because I finally managed to get a picture of most of my horns![/quote]

Finetales,

Thanks for introducing me to the term "necroing!"

When you get called to a gig or recording session, do you bring just one horn, or do you tote several "just in case?"

Kbiggs · by **Kbiggs** » 2025-12-25 2:12 p.m.

I’m absolutely certain she uses this:

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Finetales · by **Finetales** » 2025-12-25 4:15 p.m.

[quote="drnim"]Finetales--how do you wind the G/E/D tuning on the Willson? Easier/harder to use?[/quote]

I wouldn't call it easier or harder, just different. Compared to F/Gb, some things are easier, others are harder. I think it balances out well, and I do like it a lot!

[quote="Posaunus"]When you get called to a gig or recording session, do you bring just one horn, or do you tote several "just in case?"[/quote]

Depends on the gig, but usually I'm told what horns I need in advance, so I just bring what I need. Sometimes it's not specified, so I reach out to the leader/contractor and ask as it could be anything.

Dennis · by **Dennis** » 2025-12-25 6:39 p.m.

1957 King 3B Concert with slide and valve.

1972 Bach 36B

199? Bach 50T3G

Pre-Eastman Shires tenor with TI-5G-XLW bell and TW47G slide. Has both a gooseneck and Shires OG rotary valve prototype.

2023 Shires bass with in-line rotaries, B62 slide, red brass seamed tuning slide, BI-7RGLW bell.

1958 Conn 25I Euphonium

BrianJohnston · by **BrianJohnston** » 2025-12-28 3:17 p.m.

Alto: 2022 Latzsch SL-710 yellow brass bell and tuning slide paired with a courtois AC131 slide

Tenor: 1960 Mount Vernon Bach 42 with instrument innovations axial. Lightweight Mount Vernon slide. Holle nickel silver f-attach tuning slide. O malley custom VG lead pipe

Bass: (not pictured) Elkhart Bach 50 bell with a 1940 NY50 slide. Moz valves. BrassArk MV50 lead pipe.

MStarke · by **MStarke** » 2025-12-28 5:39 p.m.

I probably posted here years ago, the current stable includes:

- Conn 35h, Kanstul 450 and Weril altos

- Minick, Conn 100h and Conn 6h .500 bores

- ~1970 Conn 88h, modern 88ht, 88htg .547 bores

- Elkhart Conn 60/rebuilt to be 62h, Conn 112h, Original Greenhoe dependent TIS, Conn 70h basses

- One-off contrabass trombone (partly modelled after Kromat)

- Original Heckel and replica Piering German tenors

- Conn 4B bass trumpet

- Besson International 7065 and Weril euphoniums (both non-compensating)

There are some more instruments that are not really getting played and more or less waiting to be sold whenever I find the time.

Some maybe notable thoughts on these instruments:

Out of the altos the Kanstul is probably easiest to play for me as it has the same bore size as my smallbores and relatively easy intonation. I do not very often play alto in orchestras (+-2 programs per year maybe), but the last times I still chose the Conn as the sound was easier to mix. The Weril is surprisingly good!

The Minick smallbore is obviously the most "special" out of the three and probably the overall best-playing of my smallbores. Still I do sometimes prefer the 100h or 6h for their character.

The Elkhart 62h is - in my view despite its age totally capable to cover as a "modern" bass trombone if you can live with dependent valves (which I totally can). The 112h is surprisingly good with great response, good valve register and an interesing sound. Note that a) I play it with a heavier modern 62h slide and b) the bell section must be a very early example of the 112h. The Greenhoe not surprisingly has the easiest valve register and overall response of these. The 70h is currently the most fun for me.

The German Heckel tenor is a great responding and sounding instrument - apart from being extremely front heavy and the slide being somewhat bad. At some point I might invest a bit in getting it improved.

The Conn bass trumpet is a fantastic travel & practice instrument - and lots of fun overall.

Briande · by **Briande** » 2025-12-28 8:16 p.m.

Updated family photo:

Macbone1 · by **Macbone1** » 2025-12-29 9:33 a.m.

[quote="harrisonreed"]My opinion only, but I think more than one of each category of trombone is counterproductive. If you're a collector, that's cool and I understand that, but how can you guys possibly play all those trombones?

Most of my favorite brass heros have played on only a few instruments throughout their careers. I'm sure they have pretty big collections, but then again, maybe they don't.[/quote]

My mind keeps going back to the example of Bill Waltrous. As far as I know, he never bought a Bach trombone from an authorized dealer in his life.

The one he always played was used, and modified for him. Bach used him in advertisements and gave him some horns including a 36, but he only ever used his custom 16M.

Kbiggs · 2025-12-30 5:33 p.m.

My current stable:

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Pictured:

Bach 50 with 50G bell (Elkhart), Instrument Innovations valves, M/K nickel slide crook

Bach 42 with yellow bell (Elkhart), Bach gold tuning slide, Instrument Innovations valves, M/K nickel slide crook

Bach 36 (Corporation)

Olds horn in F, nickel

M&M (Jin Bao) bass trumpet

Mack Brass EU1150S euphonium

Hackbut/fakebut/anachronism (Beuscher)

pBone, purple

Not pictured: 50 yellow bell (Corporation), 50 custom lightweight slide, O.E. Thayer axial flow valve for 42, various odds & ends

BrassSection · by **BrassSection** » 2025-12-31 10:12 p.m.

Sunday morning on the ready horns. Trumpet and trombone get the most play time, euph maybe one song a week, rarely two. Some days all trumpet, especially Christmas music time. Occasionally all trombone.

French horn as needed, average one or two songs in a six week period.

Tuba ensemble use only.

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MrHCinDE · by **MrHCinDE** » 2026-01-01 6:59 a.m.

Here‘s a list of the ones I‘ve gigged more in the past year:

Conn 36H

Bach 36b (sale pretty much pending)

Bach 42 with W.Rapp valve section and Edwards slide

Olds Opera O-23

Bach 50B3OG

Holton TR-180 (for sale)

Lidl Bass Trumpet

Miraphone Oval Tenorhorn

Cerveny Oval Baritone

Boosey and Hawkes Imperial Euphonium

One I just added and am pretty excited about trying in an ensemble is a very nice Yamaha 682B.

Candidates for adding to the selling list ä as I just don‘t play them enough are:

King 2B Silvertone

King 3B/F

bigbone1 · by **bigbone1** » 2026-01-01 1:12 p.m.

Kühnl Bart van Lier .480/88 MKII Bz

Kanstul ZSL 1555

2*Schmelzer Model 1 silver/gold

Leanit · by **Leanit** » 2026-01-05 4:56 p.m.

I'm all done. Got my three unicorns.

Bach NY serial number 13 (pre-model prototype) .500 bore, 1930

Conn 88H from 1963. The very horn that Mark Lawrence rode to fame.

Williams Model 10 bass, 1962

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Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2026-01-06 2:22 p.m.

Now that is a quality over quantity collection!

Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2026-01-07 12:25 p.m.

Ok, fine... this took much more effort than it should. Missing all my valve horns of course, as well as a 36B (at work), Olds S24G (rented out), 42T with slot in valve (being built), Getzen 1050 (being re-crooked), 42COG (lent out), and big bass project with O'Malley bell, 45 bell, and 1485 bell (being built). Oh, and slides coming out of my ears.

The whole family:

The tenors, left to right:

Yamaha 852

King 3B/F

78H Special

42 modular

Y-Fort 763G

42GG (Ultra valve, gold bell, G valve- here with the additional F extension)

Basses, left to right:

M&W Bach 50

Shires (Trubores, B, 7YA5)

B&S Meistersinger Sarastro

Yamabach (6130 valve section, Bach 50 TS and gold corp 50 bell)

Holton 185

Conn 70H '55

Laetzsch SL-600 F contrabass

harrisonreed · by **harrisonreed** » 2026-01-07 12:46 p.m.

But where are your altos?!?

Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2026-01-07 12:55 p.m.

[quote="harrisonreed"]But where are your altos?!?[/quote]

as FDR once said, paraphrased:

never alto

Posaunus · by **Posaunus** » 2026-01-07 12:57 p.m.

[quote="Burgerbob"]Ok, fine... this took much more effort than it should. ... Oh, and slides coming out of my ears.[/quote]

O.K., I'm impressed.

How do you ensure that you can re-mate the proper slide to each bell? Do you tag them, or "just know?"

harrisonreed · by **harrisonreed** » 2026-01-07 1:08 p.m.

[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="harrisonreed" post_id="292043" time="1767807983" user_id="3642">
But where are your altos?!?[/quote]

as FDR once said, paraphrased:

never alto
</QUOTE>

:lol: :good:

Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2026-01-07 2:15 p.m.

[quote="Posaunus"]<QUOTE author="Burgerbob" post_id="292039" time="1767806746" user_id="3131">
Ok, fine... this took much more effort than it should. ... Oh, and slides coming out of my ears.[/quote]

O.K., I'm impressed.

How do you ensure that you can re-mate the proper slide to each bell? Do you tag them, or "just know?"
</QUOTE>

Well, these horns all live in cases, so the slide that is "matched" is always with it.

But I do have these as well...

Digidog · by **Digidog** » 2026-01-07 3:47 p.m.

[quote="Burgerbob"]

as FDR once said, paraphrased:

never alto[/quote]

What are your opinions of the basses you currently have? How would you rate and use them?

I remember from some time ago that you did a comparison between a couple of them and that I favoured how you played and sounded on the B&S without getting the wiser about how you ranked them from your owning and playing view - at least not what I can recall.

Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2026-01-07 4:14 p.m.

[quote="Digidog"]

What are your opinions of the basses you currently have? How would you rate and use them?

I remember from some time ago that you did a comparison between a couple of them and that I favoured how you played and sounded on the B&S without getting the wiser about how you ranked them from your owning and playing view - at least not what I can recall.[/quote]

They're all good at different things... or at least have some promise.

My M&W is perhaps my best trombone. Very even, consistent, sounds like a Bach 50, amazing through the valve section. It's what I use for serious orchestral playing, including upcoming auditions. I see it as something like a Porsche 911 Turbo- it's good at everything, but also doesn't have the "fizz" like a more compromised car. I have had to go through a few slides for it- currently I am using an Edwards VDB, the dual bore that comes with the 502.

The Trubore horn I got recently, mainly because I have a Bonezilla slide- with the original B62G the setup is a bit tight for me. Good sounding but a little narrow. With the Bonezilla it's very balanced and sounds great, to everyone's surprise.

The B&S I have waffled on so many times. It's got an AMAZING sound but simply plays differently from all my other horns, and only works with 1 mouthpiece that I own. Despite that I use it every chance I get in smaller legit settings, including all my church gigs and smaller orchestra stuff. I'd only sell it to get something like a Laetzsch or Thein.

The Yamabach I put together as a backup/commercial horn for my M&W- I had a very good sounding but not playing 50BG, and a Yamaha 6130 with a trashed bell. It's very easy to play, even, no quirks, and actually sounds very orchestral on accident. I use it at work because it's lighter and so simple to play. If I didn't have my M&W I would use this for most orchestral stuff, I think.

The 185 I have because one of the only horns I've ever regretted selling was a similar 185. This one is a bit different and I'm not sure where to go with it- it's great as is but dependent F/Eb and not quite usable for me in real life. Still deciding on this one.

I've always wanted a 70H and this one floated up for cheap. It's awesome- just a bell ding from the slide coming out in the case and otherwise in great shape. However, it's not really viable yet for use. The valve is just leaky enough that it's a bummer, it's just barely up to pitch, and of course it's a single and has horrible balance. It's going to get two valves and some other mods at some point, I think.

Digidog · by **Digidog** » 2026-01-08 9:04 a.m.

Very informative! Thank you!

I remember the B&S sounding so very good in your comparison, and since then I’ve been curious to try one - especially the version with Icon valves.

I’d make an effort to bring my meagre herd together for a photography session, since I actually don’t have any photo documentation of all my horns, and neither any picture of all of them together.

In brands and models they are:

• Shires alto

• Shires Custom 0.500

• Conn 62H prototype

• Yamaha 697

• Yamaha 421 (modded)

• Bach LT16

• King 3B

• King 3BF

jonathanharker · by **jonathanharker** » 2026-01-15 9:48 p.m.

Not my best photographic effort but from L-to-R we have:

Music stand, with unpublished contrabass trombone operator's manual

Mandolin c. 1950s, made in Napoli, resting on wife's cello (in its case)

Yamaha guitars

S.E. Shires 1Y bass, 1999 with dependent Greenhoe valves, Rath brace (front)

Couesnon G bass, nickel-silver plate, late 1890s (behind)

Wessex F contrabass, awesome with Noah's leadpipe and Ferguson 2A mouthpiece

3D-printed serpent, late 2024, mouthpiece turned from beech

Červený cimbasso, also awesome

St Baptiste soprano trombone (front)

Bach 42T, bought on a US trip 2003 from Sam Ash NYC

Ewald Meinl bass sackbut, 2020

Banjo ukulele, unknown maker (back) for all those George Formby moments

Shelves of boardgames, mouthpieces, D whistles, Brasso, and other assorted junk

Oh and a really cool darbuka (brass drum) right in the back corner.

Missing (having a birthday at the shop): Henri Selmer Paris Bolero 0.500'' ish tenor, Yamaha student model cornet, Yamaha trumpet.

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jonathanharker · by **jonathanharker** » 2026-01-15 10:05 p.m.

[quote="Burgerbob"]<QUOTE author="Digidog" post_id="292074" time="1767818841" user_id="4099">
What are your opinions of the basses you currently have? How would you rate and use them?[/quote]
They're all good at different things... or at least have some promise.

...
</QUOTE>

I know you answered the question precisely, but what about the Lätzch contra, right there in the bottom of the pic? :)

Burgerbob · by **Burgerbob** » 2026-01-15 10:10 p.m.

[quote="jonathanharker"]<QUOTE author="Burgerbob" post_id="292077" time="1767820470" user_id="3131">

They're all good at different things... or at least have some promise.

...[/quote]

I know you answered the question precisely, but what about the Lätzch contra, right there in the bottom of the pic? :)
</QUOTE>

One of the best trombones I own, and the best contra available today IMO. Wish I could use it more!

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