What slides fit JinBao trombones?

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MrWatermelon
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by MrWatermelon »

I have a Mack brass bass trombone and I'm not a fan of the slide, does anyone know a if Shires/Edwards/Bach/Conn/whatever bass slide will fit in the receiver?
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Mv2541
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by Mv2541 »

You mean it's slow/scratchy or you don't like the way it plays? If you're gonna drop ~$800 on some used Shires/Edwards slide I would just buy that Holton/Bach in the classifieds and have (probably) a much better horn for not much more money.
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Kdanielsen
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by Kdanielsen »

I used a mack brass bass bell section with my shires tenor slide for a bit as my first “bass.” It fit pretty well.

I have no idea if it will work in your case.
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MrWatermelon
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by MrWatermelon »

I don't like the way it plays, I can't spend $2000+ on a new trombone yet either.
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Mv2541
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by Mv2541 »

[quote="MrWatermelon"]I don't like the way it plays, I can't spend $2000+ on a new trombone yet either.[/quote]

I think that frankenbass was going for around $1200, and recently a used Eastman went for around the same ish. There are definitely horns in that price range that will beat slapping a boutique slide on a Jinbao bell section.
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MrWatermelon
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by MrWatermelon »

[quote="Mv2541"]<QUOTE author="MrWatermelon" post_id="112532" time="1588995266" user_id="6945">
I don't like the way it plays, I can't spend $2000+ on a new trombone yet either.[/quote]

I think that frankenbass was going for around $1200, and recently a used Eastman went for around the same ish. There are definitely horns in that price range that will beat slapping a boutique slide on a Jinbao bell section.
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I appreciate your opinion but purchasing a new instrument is not the route I will be taking, for now.
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SlideCrook
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by SlideCrook »

Which model Jin Bao trombone do you have? Do you have any idea of which trombone they copied? I would try one from the original design’s make. I have a Jin Bao yamaclone that fits a Yamaha slide. And I think the 7B copy fits a King bass slide. Good luck, don’t waste a lot of money doing this. You run a risk of throwing off the geometry and intended proportions and totally wrecking your intonation, how partials line up, and make your horn unusable.

Have you tried sending the slide to a slide tech for some attention and getting the stock lead pipe removed so you could slip a brass ark lead pipe in?

What bothered me was that you included Shires and Edwards in your list of possible slides. Don’t put a Viper engine in your Neon. Save up the cash and pick up extra hours. Buy a used, tried and true bass trombone for $1500 or less. I’m not knocking your Jin Bao, but it fills a role that you seem to be outgrowing, and you are expecting too much from it.
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hyperbolica
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by hyperbolica »

The cheapest thing to do would be to call Tom and get a real replacement. No sense in trying to shoehorn an expensive slide onto a Chinese bell. How much could a new slide for a $900 horn be?
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JohnL
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by JohnL »

[quote="hyperbolica"]The cheapest thing to do would be to call Tom and get a real replacement. No sense in trying to shoehorn an expensive slide onto a Chinese bell. How much could a new slide for a $900 horn be?[/quote]

But will a replacement slide fix the problem? If there were a mechanical issue, sure - but:
[quote="MrWatermelon"]I don't like the way it plays,[/quote]
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Mv2541
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by Mv2541 »

[quote="MrWatermelon"]<QUOTE author="Mv2541" post_id="112539" time="1589000741" user_id="247">

I think that frankenbass was going for around $1200, and recently a used Eastman went for around the same ish. There are definitely horns in that price range that will beat slapping a boutique slide on a Jinbao bell section.[/quote]

I appreciate your opinion but purchasing a new instrument is not the route I will be taking, for now.
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"Save up the cash and pick up extra hours. Buy a used, tried and true bass trombone for $1500 or less."

"No sense in trying to shoehorn an expensive slide onto a Chinese bell."

If you aren't ready to purchase now, I would really reccomend just dealing with the slide it has and wait until you are in the position to get a better horn. Three of us have made the same point, but obviously you gotta do what you wish with the information.
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paulyg
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by paulyg »

You're setting yourself up for disappointment. Trying to salvage this abomination of a horn is simply throwing good money after bad.

Nobody here is going to try to make you feel better about doing the foolish thing. Do the right thing and save up for a real instrument.
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by Bach5G »

Lipstick on a pig.