Building a slide trumpet

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Elow
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by Elow »

<YOUTUBE id="Ytsi7U-9gVw">https://youtu.be/Ytsi7U-9gVw</YOUTUBE> This looks pretty interesting. This was in my recommended tab and i couldn’t help but to click on it. Im pretty interested in how this is gonna turn out.
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brassmedic
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by brassmedic »

Too bad he doesn't now about Trombone Chat. There have been several threads here about how long a slide needs to be for a given key of the instrument. He spent a lot of time measuring the length of the tubing on all the valves and valve slides. Could have just used math. Or just measure a Bb trombone slide and divide by 2.
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

One thing he's going to find difficult is that he appears to want to use the trombone slide with its crook. That will make it much harder to make a 7 position slide and still have a bell section. If he downsizes the crook (and braces) he can made the slide an inch or so longer which gives him some "wiggle room".
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harrisonreed
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by harrisonreed »

I predict that it will end up as a gimmick instrument with no serious repertoire or respect, no matter how it's built.

If you want a slide trumpet, I feel like the Pheonix or the Firebird is the design you want.

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slipperyjoe
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by slipperyjoe »

I'll be curious to see what overall tuning setup will be. I've found that adjustable leadpipe tuning works very well, though I'd like to try something like a Conn 16A with TIS.

It's only a gimmick if treated as such.
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JohnL
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by JohnL »

[quote="BGuttman"]One thing he's going to find difficult is that he appears to want to use the trombone slide with its crook. That will make it much harder to make a 7 position slide and still have a bell section. If he downsizes the crook (and braces) he can made the slide an inch or so longer which gives him some "wiggle room".[/quote]
If I were him, I'd look at using a crook off of the donor cornet.

The donor trombone looks like it's got a lot of slide wear. Hard to tell from the pic, but I think the inner tubes may be nickel silver stockings soldered onto bare brass tubes. It'll be unfortunate if he puts a lot of effort into this thing only to find out that the slide tubes are too far gone to give decent action.
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Bonearzt
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by Bonearzt »

OR just spend $200 and get a Getzen slide trumpet.
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JohnL
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by JohnL »

[quote="Bonearzt"]OR just spend $200 and get a Getzen slide trumpet.[/quote]
Where's the fun in that? :D
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brassmedic
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by brassmedic »

[quote="Bonearzt"]OR just spend $200 and get a Getzen slide trumpet.[/quote]

They're going for between $250 and $400 on eBay right now. The shape of the Getzen bugs me, though. I do like the idea of using a cornet bell to make it look more like a trombone shape. Not that it should really matter, but just for the coolness factor. I had the same idea years ago. I still have the coprion cornet donor bell, but I don't have time to do projects just for fun anymore. :weep: