Getzen 1062 slide swap
- MTbassbone
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Has anyone tried putting a 1052 slide on a 1062 bell section. Basically making the 1062 a single bore instead of a dual bore. Just curious. If so what was the outcome?
- BGuttman
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At one time some dealers would allow you to buy either horn with either slide. Never played them myself so I can't comment on what happens.
- Jimtrombone
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Yes, that is the setup on my horn. It was like that when I bought it from another forum member. No concerns here, plays fine.
- MTbassbone
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I had inquired about getting a dependent Edwards CR-E valve section, but at the time it was not in the cards.
- Crazy4Tbone86
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Slides are interchangeable. I have the opposite set-up. My 1052 has a dual-bore .562-578 Getzen slide and it works great.
- mrdeacon
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Just a heads up there are actually two eras of Getzen slides. 90% of them are the newer ones with removable leadpipes and Conn tenons. The older preremovable pipe slides can sometimes be Bach tenons!
I have a older 90s Getzen 1062 that I used a stock Edwards slide in for a couple of years. No mods needed.
I have a older 90s Getzen 1062 that I used a stock Edwards slide in for a couple of years. No mods needed.
- Bach5G
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An option might be an Edwards slide. You may have to swap out the tenant. Not a big deal.
- Crazy4Tbone86
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It might be a big deal. Individual Edwards parts are very expensive. Before Edwards closed down in the spring for the pandemic, they quoted me a price of $100 for just the threaded collar to go on a leadpipe. I imagine a slide tenon could easily be $175.
- mrdeacon
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[quote="Crazy4Tbone86"]It might be a big deal. Individual Edwards parts are very expensive. Before Edwards closed down in the spring for the pandemic, they quoted me a price of $100 for just the threaded collar to go on a leadpipe. I imagine a slide tenon could easily be $175.[/quote]
Most Getzen horns use a different tenon than the Edwards horns. I think you can purchase Getzen parts from Allied if I'm not mistaken. Wayyyyy cheaper. A tech could also use a Conn tenon without too much difficultly and it'd be like a $15-$20 part.
I had a tech use a Conn tenon on a Bach 50B slide. Not too difficult of a job. But yes if you were to convert a Getzen slide to an Edwards tenon using an original Edwards part that'd be a huge pain and overly expensive.
Most Getzen horns use a different tenon than the Edwards horns. I think you can purchase Getzen parts from Allied if I'm not mistaken. Wayyyyy cheaper. A tech could also use a Conn tenon without too much difficultly and it'd be like a $15-$20 part.
I had a tech use a Conn tenon on a Bach 50B slide. Not too difficult of a job. But yes if you were to convert a Getzen slide to an Edwards tenon using an original Edwards part that'd be a huge pain and overly expensive.
- Bach5G
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I did this years ago. I had a 1052 with a dual bore Eddie slide. Not difficult, not expensive, as I recall. My tech ordered the part.
Maybe a tech will weigh in.
Wouldn’t you be adding a Getzen tenon to an Eddie slide?
Maybe a tech will weigh in.
Wouldn’t you be adding a Getzen tenon to an Eddie slide?
- Crazy4Tbone86
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Yes Bach5G,
I think I got that backwards. Adding a Getzen tenon to an Edwards slide would be the thing to do.....and the Getzen part would be a lot cheaper. Although......the Getzen tenons are shorter than the Edwards tenons. It would likely require some type of shim.
I think I got that backwards. Adding a Getzen tenon to an Edwards slide would be the thing to do.....and the Getzen part would be a lot cheaper. Although......the Getzen tenons are shorter than the Edwards tenons. It would likely require some type of shim.
- Bach5G
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I don’t remember there being an issue, but it was a long time ago.
- Crazy4Tbone86
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Your tech could have just trimmed off the extra inner slide tubing. That would make sense because pulling the inner slide brace closer to the bell section makes a bass trombone more ergonomic for most people.
- elmsandr
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Haven't looked at them together in a LONG time, but I am 95% certain that the threads/nut for the handslide retainer is in the exact same linear position between the Getzen Eterna/Custom horns and the Edwards horns. Just the taper rate of the handslide reciever is different. Yes the Getzen/Conn taper is shorter in length, but trimming that inner down a hair should not be difficult for a competent tech.
FWIW, I always preferred the 1062 with the 1052 slide. I can't do those Getzen/Edwards slides without the oversleeves.
Cheers,
Andy
FWIW, I always preferred the 1062 with the 1052 slide. I can't do those Getzen/Edwards slides without the oversleeves.
Cheers,
Andy