Nelson Riddle Bass Trombone excerpts?
- Eyedoc
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There are books of symphonic excerpts. Does there exist a collection of the wonderful lines and mini solos for bass trombone written by Nelson Riddle? I am terrible at listening and figuring out the lines. It is a skill I need to work on.
- ngrinder
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[quote="Eyedoc"]There are books of symphonic excerpts. Does there exist a collection of the wonderful lines and mini solos for bass trombone written by Nelson Riddle? I am terrible at listening and figuring out the lines. It is a skill I need to work on.[/quote]
I don't believe there are any excerpt books like this, but learning those little lines by ear will make you better than if you read them out of a book. It can seem daunting and impossible to figure it out at first, but it does get easier the more you work on it.
Once you figure the lines out, playing along with those bands and recordings is so exhilarating! You're playing along with the best of the best - there's no better teacher than that.
I don't believe there are any excerpt books like this, but learning those little lines by ear will make you better than if you read them out of a book. It can seem daunting and impossible to figure it out at first, but it does get easier the more you work on it.
Once you figure the lines out, playing along with those bands and recordings is so exhilarating! You're playing along with the best of the best - there's no better teacher than that.
- Elow
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Do you tend to learn it by ear or write it out? I’ve tried learning a solo by ear and i have never hated playing trombone so much, maybe scales come close, but that was just so discouraging.
- BGuttman
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[quote="Elow"]Do you tend to learn it by ear or write it out? ...[/quote]
Yes. ;)
Some people do better writing and some people do better by ear. In one sense it's all by ear since you listen and then write down or imitate.
Yes. ;)
Some people do better writing and some people do better by ear. In one sense it's all by ear since you listen and then write down or imitate.
- WGWTR180
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[quote="Elow"]Do you tend to learn it by ear or write it out? I’ve tried learning a solo by ear and i have never hated playing trombone so much, maybe scales come close, but that was just so discouraging.[/quote]
You hate playing the trombone when trying to learn something by ear? Is that because it's difficult?
You hate playing the trombone when trying to learn something by ear? Is that because it's difficult?
- Elow
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[quote="WGWTR180"]<QUOTE author="Elow" post_id="119436" time="1594364114" user_id="8680">
Do you tend to learn it by ear or write it out? I’ve tried learning a solo by ear and i have never hated playing trombone so much, maybe scales come close, but that was just so discouraging.[/quote]
You hate playing the trombone when trying to learn something by ear? Is that because it's difficult?
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Not really sure, probably because it’s out of my comfort zone. It also takes forever and by the time i learn it i’ve listened to it so many times that i don’t like it anymore.
Do you tend to learn it by ear or write it out? I’ve tried learning a solo by ear and i have never hated playing trombone so much, maybe scales come close, but that was just so discouraging.[/quote]
You hate playing the trombone when trying to learn something by ear? Is that because it's difficult?
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Not really sure, probably because it’s out of my comfort zone. It also takes forever and by the time i learn it i’ve listened to it so many times that i don’t like it anymore.
- BGuttman
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[quote="Elow"]...
Not really sure, probably because it’s out of my comfort zone. It also takes forever and by the time i learn it i’ve listened to it so many times that i don’t like it anymore.[/quote]
Part of being a musician is that you have to be able to play something a dozen times and make it sound fresh each time. This is especially true for playing theatricals. If listening to something a dozen times makes you bored, maybe it isn't so interesting to you after all.
Not really sure, probably because it’s out of my comfort zone. It also takes forever and by the time i learn it i’ve listened to it so many times that i don’t like it anymore.[/quote]
Part of being a musician is that you have to be able to play something a dozen times and make it sound fresh each time. This is especially true for playing theatricals. If listening to something a dozen times makes you bored, maybe it isn't so interesting to you after all.
- WGWTR180
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[quote="Elow"]<QUOTE author="WGWTR180" post_id="119441" time="1594384538" user_id="7573">
You hate playing the trombone when trying to learn something by ear? Is that because it's difficult?[/quote]
Not really sure, probably because it’s out of my comfort zone. It also takes forever and by the time i learn it i’ve listened to it so many times that i don’t like it anymore.
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I was given this advice once. Work on everything but work on the things you're not good at doing more.
You hate playing the trombone when trying to learn something by ear? Is that because it's difficult?[/quote]
Not really sure, probably because it’s out of my comfort zone. It also takes forever and by the time i learn it i’ve listened to it so many times that i don’t like it anymore.
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I was given this advice once. Work on everything but work on the things you're not good at doing more.
- Elow
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[quote="WGWTR180"]I was given this advice once. Work on everything but work on the things you're not good at doing more.[/quote]
I was told to do that as well, the only thing i’ve done that for is lip slurs and now i’m pretty good at most trill exercises. Might have to start doing that more.
I was told to do that as well, the only thing i’ve done that for is lip slurs and now i’m pretty good at most trill exercises. Might have to start doing that more.
- Eyedoc
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Thank you for the responses. I am glad you didn’t say if I can’t play by ear to play the radio and leave the trombone to real musicians! <EMOJI seq="1f600" tseq="1f600">😀</EMOJI> Of course I wanted it easy! Good mental exercise for my 60 year old brain. When our community band was meeting, a few of the high school kids there would jam together and play tunes by memory or ear. I try to hide my jealousy!
Cheers to those who have loaded such wonderful music on YouTube and especially to the greats Nelson Riddle, Frank Sinatra, and George Roberts. Anyone else play on those recordings like “You Make Me Feel So Good” “Wives and Lovers“ album, “Life is a Bowl of Cherries” etc?
Cheers to those who have loaded such wonderful music on YouTube and especially to the greats Nelson Riddle, Frank Sinatra, and George Roberts. Anyone else play on those recordings like “You Make Me Feel So Good” “Wives and Lovers“ album, “Life is a Bowl of Cherries” etc?
- kingsk1117
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Not quite what you were asking for, but I have a play-along record titled "5 Pieces for Bass Trombone" written by Nelson Riddle and performed by George Roberts with the Academy Brass (DNE Records, 1003) from 1969 that comes with the written-out bass trombone lines.
- Eyedoc
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Thank you. I see it listed on Hickey’s. It doesn’t list the recording but I see that on YouTube.
- DougHulme
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CD comes with it in a wallet pasted on the inside cover... Doug
- Slideorama
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- Posaunus
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[quote="Slideorama"]Here's a start...
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Thank you!
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Thank you!