Cleaning material
- mickael57280
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Hi, just wanna what you guys are using for cleaning your slide.
Everytime I must lube again, I wipe the inners with a paper and swab the outer with cleaning rod and terry cloth.
Once a year I fill the slide with some lukewarm water with a little bit of dish soap, let it sit for 20 minutes then run snake thru it, rinse well and that's it.
In the past I've using the Reka cleaning sponge but it worn out pretty quickly and disintegrate.
I've tried the Brass Saver but seems to be way to gentle on the outer.
Everytime I must lube again, I wipe the inners with a paper and swab the outer with cleaning rod and terry cloth.
Once a year I fill the slide with some lukewarm water with a little bit of dish soap, let it sit for 20 minutes then run snake thru it, rinse well and that's it.
In the past I've using the Reka cleaning sponge but it worn out pretty quickly and disintegrate.
I've tried the Brass Saver but seems to be way to gentle on the outer.
- Posaunus
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My opinion:
Don't be afraid to swab your inner slides – first with the HW Brass-Saver to remove most of the moisture, followed by a cloth-wrapped cleaning rod to dry it out thoroughly. Just be VERY CAREFUL to not force the cloth through the upper slide for fear of damaging / dislodging the lead pipe – you must be gentle. My inner slides are mirror-shiny after i clean them (nearly daily).
As you have observed, the Brass-Saver will NOT completely dry the outer slide, but it is a good first step. It should be followed by a cleaning rod wrapped in cloth (or a Slide-O-Mix towel sheath) until it's "dead dry."
Don't be afraid to swab your inner slides – first with the HW Brass-Saver to remove most of the moisture, followed by a cloth-wrapped cleaning rod to dry it out thoroughly. Just be VERY CAREFUL to not force the cloth through the upper slide for fear of damaging / dislodging the lead pipe – you must be gentle. My inner slides are mirror-shiny after i clean them (nearly daily).
As you have observed, the Brass-Saver will NOT completely dry the outer slide, but it is a good first step. It should be followed by a cleaning rod wrapped in cloth (or a Slide-O-Mix towel sheath) until it's "dead dry."
- mickael57280
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Thank you.
Other members technic/material will be greatly appreciated.
Other members technic/material will be greatly appreciated.
- Vegastokc
- Posts: 211
- Joined: Jun 15, 2018
I found that a basic cleaning kit for rifles/shotguns works well for between tub soaks and when doing slide grease changes.
Kits come with assortment of tips including soft metal bristles - used very seldom, if at all - and soft cotton swabs.
Cleaning rod is thin and light and fits in all tubes but I will second Posaunus's caution at the lead pipe area.
Whole kit can be found at "StuffMart" for under $20.
Replacement tips are cheap but I do mostly use the 3"X3" bulk cotton patches with the "eye" tip.
There are relatively cheap and nicely absorbent. :good:
I recently started wiping inner with rubbing alcohol and one of the cotton patches after wiping off old cream and before applying new cream which seems to help too. (Someone on this forum suggested it recently ; I apologize for not being able to cite that person right now :shuffle: ).
Kits come with assortment of tips including soft metal bristles - used very seldom, if at all - and soft cotton swabs.
Cleaning rod is thin and light and fits in all tubes but I will second Posaunus's caution at the lead pipe area.
Whole kit can be found at "StuffMart" for under $20.
Replacement tips are cheap but I do mostly use the 3"X3" bulk cotton patches with the "eye" tip.
There are relatively cheap and nicely absorbent. :good:
I recently started wiping inner with rubbing alcohol and one of the cotton patches after wiping off old cream and before applying new cream which seems to help too. (Someone on this forum suggested it recently ; I apologize for not being able to cite that person right now :shuffle: ).
- mickael57280
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- Joined: Apr 25, 2018
One question I ask myself is if between each lubrification I clean my outer with a rod and terry cloth and wipe my inners with a soft cloth.
Each year I polish my outer slide with wright brass polish then I fill my slide with water and dish soap and clean inners and outers with the brass saver.
Do I need a snake with more agressive brush ? Because nothin' comes out with the brass saver.
Each year I polish my outer slide with wright brass polish then I fill my slide with water and dish soap and clean inners and outers with the brass saver.
Do I need a snake with more agressive brush ? Because nothin' comes out with the brass saver.
- Vegastokc
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[quote="mickael57280"]Do I need a snake with more agressive brush ?[/quote]
I would not think so.
Sounds like you have a steady cleaning routine that works.
Should stave off most rust, corrosion, etc.
Once the power tools come out it probably needs to go to the shop or traded in for a new one. :lol:
I would not think so.
Sounds like you have a steady cleaning routine that works.
Should stave off most rust, corrosion, etc.
Once the power tools come out it probably needs to go to the shop or traded in for a new one. :lol:
- mickael57280
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:lol: honestly if power tools is needed it must be a problem.
On the other hand I would never have think wright brass polish can get out so much gunk out of a slide, so much that I reconsider the Selmer Bolero I have on sale.
After a tech clean I was thinkin' nothing would improve, tried Wright and have done somethin' like 20+ pass to have it clean, think I have removed gunk from the 60+ years of the horn.
On the other hand I would never have think wright brass polish can get out so much gunk out of a slide, so much that I reconsider the Selmer Bolero I have on sale.
After a tech clean I was thinkin' nothing would improve, tried Wright and have done somethin' like 20+ pass to have it clean, think I have removed gunk from the 60+ years of the horn.
- Bonearzt
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I HIGHLY advise against swabbing out your inner slide tubes!
The swab is either too loose to really affect anything or too tight and you force it and create a problem!
I don't care how many times anyone has done it, it just needs that one time someone tries it and screws up their slide and or leadpipe .
To easy to misalign the inner slide assembly or damage the thin leadpipe with a swab on a rod.
I know, my opinion and $5 gets a coffee at starbucks....
Eric
The swab is either too loose to really affect anything or too tight and you force it and create a problem!
I don't care how many times anyone has done it, it just needs that one time someone tries it and screws up their slide and or leadpipe .
To easy to misalign the inner slide assembly or damage the thin leadpipe with a swab on a rod.
I know, my opinion and $5 gets a coffee at starbucks....
Eric
- mickael57280
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Even with a Brass Saver with the slide assembled ?
- Vegastokc
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[quote="Bonearzt"]I know, my opinion and $5 gets a coffee at starbucks....[/quote]
That's $5 Canadian, right? :D
Seriously, of course your opinion is valued - especially on this topic.
It should go without saying that a light touch is always warranted when cleaning the inners.
OP obviously really likes a very clean slide.
I have always been a little nervous messing near the lead pipe and cork barrels.
Besides, isn't a little green gunk supposed to be good for resonance. :lol:
That's $5 Canadian, right? :D
Seriously, of course your opinion is valued - especially on this topic.
It should go without saying that a light touch is always warranted when cleaning the inners.
OP obviously really likes a very clean slide.
I have always been a little nervous messing near the lead pipe and cork barrels.
Besides, isn't a little green gunk supposed to be good for resonance. :lol:
- Wishbone
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- Joined: Jan 19, 2019
Speaking of the Brass Saver - any tips on how to clean the brush itself? I think it's great & use it often but over the years mine accumulated some lubricants that don't seem to come off anymore by just wiping
- Posaunus
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[quote="Wishbone"]Speaking of the Brass Saver - any tips on how to clean the brush itself? I think it's great & use it often but over the years mine accumulated some lubricants that don't seem to come off anymore by just wiping[/quote]
I think you could just wash it by swishing in your sink with some warm water and Dawn detergent, gently towel dry, and complete drying in open air.
I do wipe mine dry with a towel or similar cloth after each pass through the slide, but can imagine some lubricant buildup after lots of trips through outer slides.
I think you could just wash it by swishing in your sink with some warm water and Dawn detergent, gently towel dry, and complete drying in open air.
I do wipe mine dry with a towel or similar cloth after each pass through the slide, but can imagine some lubricant buildup after lots of trips through outer slides.
- Driswood
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[quote="Bonearzt"]I HIGHLY advise against swabbing out your inner slide tubes!
The swab is either too loose to really affect anything or too tight and you force it and create a problem!
I don't care how many times anyone has done it, it just needs that one time someone tries it and screws up their slide and or leadpipe .
To easy to misalign the inner slide assembly or damage the thin leadpipe with a swab on a rod.
I know, my opinion and $5 gets a coffee at starbucks....
Eric[/quote]
I occasionally run a rod and cheesecloth through my inners, but only after removing my leadpipe. I don't make it tight, and don't force it. Last thing I want to do is dislodge the tube from the cork barrel!
The swab is either too loose to really affect anything or too tight and you force it and create a problem!
I don't care how many times anyone has done it, it just needs that one time someone tries it and screws up their slide and or leadpipe .
To easy to misalign the inner slide assembly or damage the thin leadpipe with a swab on a rod.
I know, my opinion and $5 gets a coffee at starbucks....
Eric[/quote]
I occasionally run a rod and cheesecloth through my inners, but only after removing my leadpipe. I don't make it tight, and don't force it. Last thing I want to do is dislodge the tube from the cork barrel!
- Bonearzt
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[quote="Wishbone"]Speaking of the Brass Saver - any tips on how to clean the brush itself? I think it's great & use it often but over the years mine accumulated some lubricants that don't seem to come off anymore by just wiping[/quote]
Try a little valve oil, WD40 or mineral spirits.
Really ANY kind of degreaser should dissolve the accumulated oils and snot!
Eric
Try a little valve oil, WD40 or mineral spirits.
Really ANY kind of degreaser should dissolve the accumulated oils and snot!
Eric
- Bonearzt
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[quote="Driswood"]<QUOTE author="Bonearzt" post_id="123185" time="1597850664" user_id="54">
I HIGHLY advise against swabbing out your inner slide tubes!
The swab is either too loose to really affect anything or too tight and you force it and create a problem!
I don't care how many times anyone has done it, it just needs that one time someone tries it and screws up their slide and or leadpipe .
To easy to misalign the inner slide assembly or damage the thin leadpipe with a swab on a rod.
I know, my opinion and $5 gets a coffee at starbucks....
Eric
[/quote]
I occasionally run a rod and cheesecloth through my inners, but only after removing my leadpipe. I don't make it tight, and don't force it. Last thing I want to do is dislodge the tube from the cork barrel!
</QUOTE>
Removing the lead pipe first is definitely a good idea, IF you can..
And a loose fit is good, remember to hold the tube you're swabbing by the cork barrel.
And IF you happen to dislodge the tube, you definitely have other issues to deal with!!!
Eric
I HIGHLY advise against swabbing out your inner slide tubes!
The swab is either too loose to really affect anything or too tight and you force it and create a problem!
I don't care how many times anyone has done it, it just needs that one time someone tries it and screws up their slide and or leadpipe .
To easy to misalign the inner slide assembly or damage the thin leadpipe with a swab on a rod.
I know, my opinion and $5 gets a coffee at starbucks....
Eric
[/quote]
I occasionally run a rod and cheesecloth through my inners, but only after removing my leadpipe. I don't make it tight, and don't force it. Last thing I want to do is dislodge the tube from the cork barrel!
</QUOTE>
Removing the lead pipe first is definitely a good idea, IF you can..
And a loose fit is good, remember to hold the tube you're swabbing by the cork barrel.
And IF you happen to dislodge the tube, you definitely have other issues to deal with!!!
Eric
- JCBone
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- Joined: Jul 29, 2020
I use toilet paper to clean the inners and a rod with a wipe to clean the outers and the pipe.
- timothy42b
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- Joined: Mar 27, 2018
People who run a rod through the inners are probably more coordinated than me. I never risk it. Once in a great while a brush on a cable, and then only when inside the outers.
I've started leaving the outer slide upside down on the assembled horn on the stand to let it thoroughly dry. That's because I've been playing mostly pBone, which demands frequent wiping and swabbing or it gets wet and sticks, so I'm keeping it dry and I just naturally do the same for the brass tenor.
The rod I use on the pBone is 1/4 inch PEX, with a strip of muslin spiral wrapped. No slot is necessary and the end is covered. Not that you can damage a pBone, but just in case.
I've started leaving the outer slide upside down on the assembled horn on the stand to let it thoroughly dry. That's because I've been playing mostly pBone, which demands frequent wiping and swabbing or it gets wet and sticks, so I'm keeping it dry and I just naturally do the same for the brass tenor.
The rod I use on the pBone is 1/4 inch PEX, with a strip of muslin spiral wrapped. No slot is necessary and the end is covered. Not that you can damage a pBone, but just in case.