Valve trombonists for Gerry Mulligan?

Elow · by **Elow** » 2020-11-13 1:21 a.m.

Anyone know who he is? He sounds great, especially for a valve trombone. Any idea why he didnt play slide?

Bach5G · by **Bach5G** » 2020-11-13 1:24 a.m.

Brookmeyer?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Brookmeyer

Elow · by **Elow** » 2020-11-13 1:27 a.m.

[quote="Bach5G"]Brookmeyer?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Brookmeyer[/quote]

Makes sense, didn’t even know he was on that album Thanks

Posaunus · by **Posaunus** » 2020-11-13 12:39 p.m.

[quote="Elow"].... Any idea why he didnt play slide?[/quote]

Sort of a strange question. He played valve trombone, and played it well. Why switch? Why don't you play clarinet?

Elow · by **Elow** » 2020-11-13 1:37 p.m.

[quote="Posaunus"]<QUOTE author="Elow" post_id="130373" time="1605248486" user_id="8680">
.... Any idea why he didnt play slide?[/quote]

Sort of a strange question. He played valve trombone, and played it well. Why switch? Why don't you play clarinet?
</QUOTE>

Not a bad thing, just curious if he started out on slide or valve because most don’t start on valves.

BGuttman · by **BGuttman** » 2020-11-13 2:30 p.m.

Valve trombone was a popular instrument for Latin bands. Also was a way for trumpet or baritone players to get into trombone playing.

Valve trombone offers a few advantages in improvising, especially in this era of stream of notes playing. You can get a lot more facility in fast passages with a valve trombone.

There have been some seriously good valve trombone players in the past. Juan Tizol, Brad Gowans, and Bob Brookmeyer are three greats.

Bach5G · by **Bach5G** » 2020-11-13 4:03 p.m.

Also Rob McConnell.

Arthurtwoshedsjackson · by **Arthurtwoshedsjackson** » 2020-11-14 9:06 a.m.

and Mike Fahn

Basbasun · by **Basbasun** » 2020-11-14 9:19 a.m.

Puccini, Belini and Verdi had the valve trombone in mind in all the music they wrote. Today many opera ochestras do use valve trombones for their music. Valve trombone is a great instrument when played like fex Bob Broomeyer. I did played together with Bob for a month in Sweden with Gugge Hedrenius band, I told him once that I played the clarinett before I started on the trombone. He looki funny on me and said "well, so did I".

Posaunus · by **Posaunus** » 2020-11-14 12:18 p.m.

[quote="Bach5G"]Also Rob McConnell.[/quote]

:good: Eh?

BGuttman · by **BGuttman** » 2020-11-14 12:31 p.m.

Also, but slightly tangential, Kai Winding using a King Trombonium (a sort of Baritone Horn shaped Valve Trombone).

All goes to show that the valve trombone has a place even though slide players tend to look down on it.

Arthurtwoshedsjackson · by **Arthurtwoshedsjackson** » 2020-11-14 1:27 p.m.

There’s a promotional photo of Winding and J.J. Johnson holding trombonia that can be found online. Does anyone know how much they used these horns for performances or recordings?

ithinknot · 2020-11-14 3:54 p.m.

[quote="Arthurtwoshedsjackson"]There’s a promotional photo of Winding and J.J. Johnson holding trombonia that can be found online. Does anyone know how much they used these horns for performances or recordings?[/quote]

Session details here: ~~[url]~~<LINK_TEXT text="https://jazzdiscogcorner.pagesperso-ora ... g_1956.htm">https://jazzdiscogcorner.pagesperso-orange.fr/discographies_%20labels/c/columbia/instrumentals/w/winding_kai/discography/columbia_kaiwinding_1956.htm</LINK_TEXT>

~~[url]~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3buruVWOu8

~~[url]~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lzXBGjrSic

~~[url]~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fX_8CTgGtfM

~~[url]~~https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWnAPbjAt4Q

Basbasun · by **Basbasun** » 2020-11-14 4:42 p.m.

[quote="Elow"]Anyone know who he is? He sounds great, especially for a valve trombone. Any idea why he didnt play slide?[/quote]

Well, this question make me realize what an old fart I am.

Arthurtwoshedsjackson · by **Arthurtwoshedsjackson** » 2020-11-14 5:38 p.m.

Thanks ithinknot!

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