Schilke 51 series question

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dukesboneman
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by dukesboneman »

Does anyone know if Schilke ever made a more commercial mouthpiece in the 51 series?

Something with a slightly shallower cup than the 51B and just a slightly tighter backbore?

I switched to a 51B a while ago but got frustrated at loosing the top of my range even after lots of practise.

I normally have a solid high G

I love the way it feels and the sound but...would like a little more "Grip and ease" in the upper range
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Doug_Elliott
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by Doug_Elliott »

That too big a rim for you to have solid high range.

Not a general comment - intended specifically for dukesboneman.
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chromebone
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by chromebone »

I own a 51A and used to own a 51A1/2 which I regret selling. You can get them custom made by Schilke.
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PaulT
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by PaulT »

What's a high "G"? The "G" that is three lines above the bass staff or a G way the hell up into some other staff?
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

Rest assured that G 3 lines above the bass staff is well within Dukesboneman's range. He's talking about the one at the top of the treble staff.
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FEWeathers
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by FEWeathers »

The Schilke 47 has the desired specs you've listed, but with the smaller rim Doug says you need. If you need a large shank version of that, Doug can whip that up for you.
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Doug_Elliott
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by Doug_Elliott »

What horn is this for?
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dukesboneman
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by dukesboneman »

I`ve had really good luck with the 51B with my Bach 36, 12 & now 8
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Bach5G
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by Bach5G »

I really like my 51 in my .525 Shires.
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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

[quote="dukesboneman"]I`ve had really good luck with the 51B with my Bach 36, 12 & now 8[/quote]

Shows how much depends on personal preference and individual anatomy. I've never been comfortable with a Schilke 51B, either large- or small-shank.

But like Bach5G, I've been pleased with a Schilke 51 (my long-time large-bore favorite) on a Conn 79H (0.522" bore). [Though I must admit, I've never even tried to reach a "high G" – I used to be able to squeak out a high F!] For 0.500" bore trombones, I use somewhat smaller mouthpieces (e.g., for extended high range, a Schilke 47B).