Closed wrap section advise

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Adampreav
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by Adampreav »

I have a conn 88hcl with a threaded lead pipe slide from the early 2000s that I want to get a close wrap section for.

What brands, models would fit my slide, I’m good having to modify a bell section but don’t want to spend a crazy amounts of money

Thanks
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BGuttman
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by BGuttman »

Any closed wrap 88H bell section should fit your slide. Probably less expensive than importing a valve and wrap.

What's you problem with the open wrap? Most people seem to want to go TO what you have rather than from.
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Crazy4Tbone86
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by Crazy4Tbone86 »

The different vintages of Conn 8H/88Hs can have slight differences in the taper for the slide-to-bell tenon. Always best to put them together and check comparability before buying. I have seen pairings in which the threading barely connected, and the other extreme......where the receiver bottomed out on the slide taper. Again.... best to check.
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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

[quote="Adampreav"]I have a conn 88hcl with a threaded lead pipe slide from the early 2000s that I want to get a close wrap section for.

Thanks[/quote]

If you want to sell your 88HCL bell section, I'd be happy to take it off your hands! :hi:
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Adampreav
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by Adampreav »

No I’m good I plan on keeping the trombone till I die just want something more portable and my thinking is why not not get a bell section than buy a whole horn, my slide is as smooth as butter just wanted to know different models or brands that would fit my slide or even have to modify to fit
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Adampreav
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by Adampreav »

Would a Conn 52hl, shires, blessing 88h clone fit on my slide
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Hobart
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by Hobart »

The 52H is worth a shot, I'm not sure about the others
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Burgerbob
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by Burgerbob »

Shires no, B88 I think uses Conn connectors but I would make sure first.
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tombone21
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by tombone21 »

Would love to see what a closed wrap CL valve section would look like. I’m 99% sure Conn and Blessing bell and slide sections are interchangeable, but don’t have either in my possession anymore.

I have a friend that cut their CL valve section down from F to Gb. I believe didn’t stick very far out past the main tuning slide, and they had extra sleeves that would put the valve back to F whenever they wanted!
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Bonearzt
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by Bonearzt »

[quote="tombone21"]Would love to see what a closed wrap CL valve section would look like.[/quote]

Not really possible due to the port configuration of the valve.

It would take a LOT of plumbing to make that happen!!

Eric
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JohntheTheologian
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by JohntheTheologian »

Blessing B88 would work. It's interchangeable with Conns, including the 52H.
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Posaunus
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by Posaunus »

[quote="Adampreav"]No I’m good I plan on keeping the trombone till I die just want something more portable and my thinking is why not not get a bell section than buy a whole horn,[/quote]

Not sure what you'll gain in "portability." :idk: My old Conn 88H case is only 1¼" shorter than an 88HCL case – it's the slide length that determines the case length.

I love my 1972 88H – but must admit that the short-throw CL valve is awfully nice. If you ever want to sell your 88HCL, I'd be happy to help you!
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tbonesullivan
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by tbonesullivan »

[quote="Posaunus"]Not sure what you'll gain in "portability." :idk: My old Conn 88H case is only 1¼" shorter than an 88HCL case – it's the slide length that determines the case length.[/quote] This was my thought as well. Just looking at that case, it's not getting any shorter unless the SLIDE gets shorter. It'll make the bell section like.. 3 inches shorter?

It's times like this I refer to one of my favorite quotes from The Hunt for the Red October:

"Could you launch an ICBM horizontally?"

"Sure, but why would you want to?"